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Europe’s GDPR privacy law is headed for red tape bonfire within ‘weeks’

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    I‘m afraid they‘re aiming to erase privacy instead, but I have hope I might be wrong.

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    If a proposal comes from Mrs VDL, you can always assume the worst, and the most corrupt option imaginable.

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      One thing that's symptomatic for anti-GDPR sentiment in general are "cookie banner" discussions. As if the EU had ever told anyone they need cookie banners! You absolutely don't need them if you're not randomly throwing around data. And people should know better, just from seeing titles on said cookie banners like "Your privacy is important to us and our 1234 partners" (and that's not even exaggerated!). In addition, "cookie banner" is a misnomer too, as the thing you're really setting up is not cookie behavior but data-spreading behavior.

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      As an addendum: At a former employer, we ran an online survey which we announced through a small notification on the page. I didn't want it to be too annoying, so included a "go away" button. That button wrote a extremely GDPR-compliant cookie that simply stored the preference. One of my co-workers was careless enough to casually mention this to a high-ranking American employee who then questioned me whether we shouldn't include that cookie on the cookie banner, etc. It took a while to set that straight.

      That American was the same person who was responsible for combining browsing behavior on the website with a third-party chat provider, so either AI or human agents could open a chat box on specific people's screen and ask them creepily specific questions about whether they'd like to buy any of the products they'd been looking at on former employer's site over the past months.

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        Yes this is the exact moment that we decide we want to be as similar to the US as possible. These neoliberals need to go.

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        That's a funny way of saying liberals

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        • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

          If they can make GDPR more simple easier to comply with, it would do wonders.

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          The only part of GDPR that requires any effort is the ability to export and delete user data, which is good design in software any way.

          Most companies breaking GDPR go out of their way to break it

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          • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

            gross why are they getting rid of the best thing they've done?

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            Privacy matters, but it is really not good in its current shape. For example, it seriously hinders scientific research into contagious diseases because a lot of data of patients is incredibly hard to get or work on. There's a lot more that could be done against epidemics if it wasn't for the GDPR in its current shape.

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            • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

              If they can make GDPR more simple easier to comply with, it would do wonders.

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              What do you find hard to comply with? What would you "simplify"?

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                Privacy matters, but it is really not good in its current shape. For example, it seriously hinders scientific research into contagious diseases because a lot of data of patients is incredibly hard to get or work on. There's a lot more that could be done against epidemics if it wasn't for the GDPR in its current shape.

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                Ask for concent, its not hard.

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                  Ask for concent, its not hard.

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                  Jesus Christ how naive can you be

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                    Jesus Christ how naive can you be

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                    Consent is red tape?

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                      Jesus Christ how naive can you be

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                      You do realise that most medical research these days is for-profit? The only thing opening these databases to medical research will do is increase the profit lining the pockets of the already mega wealthy (and corrupt) industrial medical complex.

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                      • thorned_rose@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

                        You do realise that most medical research these days is for-profit? The only thing opening these databases to medical research will do is increase the profit lining the pockets of the already mega wealthy (and corrupt) industrial medical complex.

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                        Jfc you tankie, just because someone makes money from selling medication, do you really think the person receiving the medication is sad about the existence of the medication? You are literally saying "let's not cure or prevent diseases because someone could make money from it", how removed can you be

                        Also, I was talking about state funded medical research into how the spread of contagious diseases could be halted, which would only have resulted in regulatory actions. That's just one example. Get your head out of your own ass

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                          Consent is red tape?

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                          If you want to ask every person in an anonymized database for consent, yes

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                            Europe's most famous technology law, the GDPR, is next on the hit list as the European Union pushes ahead with its regulatory killing spree to slash laws it reckons are weighing down its businesses.

                            The European Commission plans to present a proposal to cut back the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR for short, in the next couple of weeks. Slashing regulation is a key focus for Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, as part of an attempt to make businesses in Europe more competitive with rivals in the United States, China and elsewhere.

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                            There is one thing that would make the GDPR easier: one single Data Protection Authority at Union level, with direct sanctioning powers.

                            No more asking Ireland first only to get Norway and Germany telling you the opposite.

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                              Jfc you tankie, just because someone makes money from selling medication, do you really think the person receiving the medication is sad about the existence of the medication? You are literally saying "let's not cure or prevent diseases because someone could make money from it", how removed can you be

                              Also, I was talking about state funded medical research into how the spread of contagious diseases could be halted, which would only have resulted in regulatory actions. That's just one example. Get your head out of your own ass

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                              Schrödingers patient. They would gladly give all their data to for profit businesses to then sell an expensive cure when not asked, but they would not be willing to give consent when asked...

                              Especially in the case of medical data it is relatively easy to break anonymization. If you make the data sellable the first to buy will be insurance companies so that they can begin pushing for coverage to not be universal, but rather based on how healthy you are and maybe even denying coverage for your lung cancer at 60 because you used to smoke in your 20s...

                              And the people who have the kind of diseases that would benefit greatly from research on it, will be first to be hung to dry in such a system.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                If you want to ask every person in an anonymized database for consent, yes

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                                You consent to your data going in to a database first, and that it will be used for medical research.

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                                • Z [email protected]

                                  Europe's most famous technology law, the GDPR, is next on the hit list as the European Union pushes ahead with its regulatory killing spree to slash laws it reckons are weighing down its businesses.

                                  The European Commission plans to present a proposal to cut back the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR for short, in the next couple of weeks. Slashing regulation is a key focus for Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, as part of an attempt to make businesses in Europe more competitive with rivals in the United States, China and elsewhere.

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                                  Oh boy what can go wrong?

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                                  • zecg@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                                    Fucking assholes, taking away gdpr and pushing for chatcontrol.

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                                    We should have democratic mechanisms to vote these politicians out of office when they start messing up.

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                                    • Z [email protected]

                                      Europe's most famous technology law, the GDPR, is next on the hit list as the European Union pushes ahead with its regulatory killing spree to slash laws it reckons are weighing down its businesses.

                                      The European Commission plans to present a proposal to cut back the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR for short, in the next couple of weeks. Slashing regulation is a key focus for Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, as part of an attempt to make businesses in Europe more competitive with rivals in the United States, China and elsewhere.

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                                      @[email protected] are you trying to become the USA? Deregulation will make us just like them! Don't undo all the good work you did!

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                                        Europe's most famous technology law, the GDPR, is next on the hit list as the European Union pushes ahead with its regulatory killing spree to slash laws it reckons are weighing down its businesses.

                                        The European Commission plans to present a proposal to cut back the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR for short, in the next couple of weeks. Slashing regulation is a key focus for Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, as part of an attempt to make businesses in Europe more competitive with rivals in the United States, China and elsewhere.

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                                        They intend to simplify compliance, not axe the law. And this is needed if Europe wants to make itself independent of USA and China on the tech front.

                                        You who are against this, have you ever had to deal with GDPR? It is a nightmare and I am certain American big tech is secretly celebrating it, because it kills any European startup alternatives, because they cannot afford to employ enough people to be compliant with the law and if they try to do it with existing personnel they don't have enough time left over to actually run their business.

                                        If you have ever complained that there aren't enough European alternatives, GDPR and other legislation is the reason why. USA shoots itself in the foot with tariffs and we Europeans shoot ourselves in the foot with regulations. I am just really glad the EU commission has realized this and are fixing it.

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                                          Privacy matters, but it is really not good in its current shape. For example, it seriously hinders scientific research into contagious diseases because a lot of data of patients is incredibly hard to get or work on. There's a lot more that could be done against epidemics if it wasn't for the GDPR in its current shape.

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                                          This is so untrue it's actually hilarious.

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