Do you not normally read patch notes before patching?
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Do you not normally read patch notes before patching?
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Do you not normally read patch notes before patching?
Fuck no, ain't nobody got time for that! My self hosted stack has 40+ services. I lock them to minor releases (where semvers are used), deploy blind with automation, and fire alerts when breakages occur, which is thankfully rarely.
What you're suggesting works for small, very carefully curated environments. I grew past that years ago and doubly so when I had kids.
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Fuck no, ain't nobody got time for that! My self hosted stack has 40+ services. I lock them to minor releases (where semvers are used), deploy blind with automation, and fire alerts when breakages occur, which is thankfully rarely.
What you're suggesting works for small, very carefully curated environments. I grew past that years ago and doubly so when I had kids.
40? Kinda curious what you are running now.
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40? Kinda curious what you are running now.
The general list:
- Immich
- Jellyfin
- Plex (deprecated but kept around for my plexpass using friends)
- Internet Radio (custom container)
- PBS kids downloader (custom container)
- Lidarr
- Sonarr
- Mylar
- Radar
- Prowlarr
- Open-Webui
- QBittorrent
- Sabnzbd
- Navidrome
- Synapse
- Element
- Forgejo
- Tdarr
- Calibre
- Calibre Web
- Tautulli
- Bazarr
- Syncthing
- LazyLibrarian
- Linkwarden
- Mealie
- GlueTun
- Kopia
- Home Assistant
- Music Assistant
- Blocky
- FoundryVTT
- Wireguard
- ArchiveTeam Warrior
- Traefik
- Docspell
- Birdcage (though I'm slowly replacing this with my own bird sound server)
- Frigate
- FreshRSS
- Ntfy
- Samba
With all the supporting services:
Server: Containers: 76 Running: 74 Paused: 0 Stopped: 2 Images: 92 -
The general list:
- Immich
- Jellyfin
- Plex (deprecated but kept around for my plexpass using friends)
- Internet Radio (custom container)
- PBS kids downloader (custom container)
- Lidarr
- Sonarr
- Mylar
- Radar
- Prowlarr
- Open-Webui
- QBittorrent
- Sabnzbd
- Navidrome
- Synapse
- Element
- Forgejo
- Tdarr
- Calibre
- Calibre Web
- Tautulli
- Bazarr
- Syncthing
- LazyLibrarian
- Linkwarden
- Mealie
- GlueTun
- Kopia
- Home Assistant
- Music Assistant
- Blocky
- FoundryVTT
- Wireguard
- ArchiveTeam Warrior
- Traefik
- Docspell
- Birdcage (though I'm slowly replacing this with my own bird sound server)
- Frigate
- FreshRSS
- Ntfy
- Samba
With all the supporting services:
Server: Containers: 76 Running: 74 Paused: 0 Stopped: 2 Images: 92 -
What's your hardware solution for that? I've reached the limit of my configuration and may need to look into more robust hardware (or moving things like jellyfin off to a dedicated machine)
It's old but fairly beefy. Most of the RAM is reserved for ZFS reads, but in reality theres tons of headroom.
CPU: 2x E5-2630L v2
Motherboard: Intel S2600CP
RAM: 8x8GB DDR3 1333 ECC
Disk:
- 1x 500GB SSD OS
- 1x 500GB SSD ZFS cache (L2ARC)
- 45TB ZFS Mirror+Stripe pool (various sizes, 8 disks)
I'll probably be moving this to a cluster of mini computers whenever prices look right, just for power efficiency.
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What's your hardware solution for that? I've reached the limit of my configuration and may need to look into more robust hardware (or moving things like jellyfin off to a dedicated machine)
I will add, what helped me the most with Plex/Jellyfin load was using Tdarr to normalize my library's formats into something easy to direct stream to any device without transcoding.
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The general list:
- Immich
- Jellyfin
- Plex (deprecated but kept around for my plexpass using friends)
- Internet Radio (custom container)
- PBS kids downloader (custom container)
- Lidarr
- Sonarr
- Mylar
- Radar
- Prowlarr
- Open-Webui
- QBittorrent
- Sabnzbd
- Navidrome
- Synapse
- Element
- Forgejo
- Tdarr
- Calibre
- Calibre Web
- Tautulli
- Bazarr
- Syncthing
- LazyLibrarian
- Linkwarden
- Mealie
- GlueTun
- Kopia
- Home Assistant
- Music Assistant
- Blocky
- FoundryVTT
- Wireguard
- ArchiveTeam Warrior
- Traefik
- Docspell
- Birdcage (though I'm slowly replacing this with my own bird sound server)
- Frigate
- FreshRSS
- Ntfy
- Samba
With all the supporting services:
Server: Containers: 76 Running: 74 Paused: 0 Stopped: 2 Images: 92Could you please explain your use case for Music Assistant if you already have Jellyfin/Plex and Navidrome?
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Could you please explain your use case for Music Assistant if you already have Jellyfin/Plex and Navidrome?
Certainly!
Jellyfin I use for video content. I find its music functions lackluster.
Navidrome I use (and my family uses) for personal listening.
Music around the house, like on one or more of my casting capable speakers / tvs I use Music Assistant. Also let's me do automations easily, and doesn't tie up an android phones media's output. Struggled with earbuds while casting taking over audio for too long before deploying Music Assistant!
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The general list:
- Immich
- Jellyfin
- Plex (deprecated but kept around for my plexpass using friends)
- Internet Radio (custom container)
- PBS kids downloader (custom container)
- Lidarr
- Sonarr
- Mylar
- Radar
- Prowlarr
- Open-Webui
- QBittorrent
- Sabnzbd
- Navidrome
- Synapse
- Element
- Forgejo
- Tdarr
- Calibre
- Calibre Web
- Tautulli
- Bazarr
- Syncthing
- LazyLibrarian
- Linkwarden
- Mealie
- GlueTun
- Kopia
- Home Assistant
- Music Assistant
- Blocky
- FoundryVTT
- Wireguard
- ArchiveTeam Warrior
- Traefik
- Docspell
- Birdcage (though I'm slowly replacing this with my own bird sound server)
- Frigate
- FreshRSS
- Ntfy
- Samba
With all the supporting services:
Server: Containers: 76 Running: 74 Paused: 0 Stopped: 2 Images: 92Tell me more about this PBS Kids downloaded (like where I might find it)
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Certainly!
Jellyfin I use for video content. I find its music functions lackluster.
Navidrome I use (and my family uses) for personal listening.
Music around the house, like on one or more of my casting capable speakers / tvs I use Music Assistant. Also let's me do automations easily, and doesn't tie up an android phones media's output. Struggled with earbuds while casting taking over audio for too long before deploying Music Assistant!
Thanks! I thought most people don't use navidrome if they have multiple users because they can't create user-specific playlists. Is this not the case? What music features do you find limiting on Jellyfin? Also, how did you get your family to switch off music streaming for your navidrome server?
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Tell me more about this PBS Kids downloaded (like where I might find it)
It's a crappy python script I packaged in a docker container lol. Turns out PBS kids uses an open unauthenticated CDN for serving videos to the website and apps.
I can share if you want, but it'll take me until tomorrow to make it public
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Certainly!
Jellyfin I use for video content. I find its music functions lackluster.
Navidrome I use (and my family uses) for personal listening.
Music around the house, like on one or more of my casting capable speakers / tvs I use Music Assistant. Also let's me do automations easily, and doesn't tie up an android phones media's output. Struggled with earbuds while casting taking over audio for too long before deploying Music Assistant!
If you're looking for more tinkering on the music around the house front, Lyrion music server + squeezelite players can be a very fun endeavor. I think it gets a little sketchy if you're favoring automation and casting, but as a network of players that will utilize a wide swath of hardware, it shines. I had a bunch of pi4s laying around and eventually repurposed them all into a multiroom audio gang.
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If you're looking for more tinkering on the music around the house front, Lyrion music server + squeezelite players can be a very fun endeavor. I think it gets a little sketchy if you're favoring automation and casting, but as a network of players that will utilize a wide swath of hardware, it shines. I had a bunch of pi4s laying around and eventually repurposed them all into a multiroom audio gang.
Yeah Music Assistant uses Snapcast, which has been fun. I did try squeeze, but haven't had a reason to switch so far
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I will add, what helped me the most with Plex/Jellyfin load was using Tdarr to normalize my library's formats into something easy to direct stream to any device without transcoding.
I ran tdarr for a while, eventually I found for most things that it was faster (and better quality) to re-download in better formats than to re-encode.
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I ran tdarr for a while, eventually I found for most things that it was faster (and better quality) to re-download in better formats than to re-encode.
That's fair!
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It's a crappy python script I packaged in a docker container lol. Turns out PBS kids uses an open unauthenticated CDN for serving videos to the website and apps.
I can share if you want, but it'll take me until tomorrow to make it public
I’ve got some PBS kids I’d want to download so, sure
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It's a crappy python script I packaged in a docker container lol. Turns out PBS kids uses an open unauthenticated CDN for serving videos to the website and apps.
I can share if you want, but it'll take me until tomorrow to make it public
I'm also interested 🫡
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I will add, what helped me the most with Plex/Jellyfin load was using Tdarr to normalize my library's formats into something easy to direct stream to any device without transcoding.
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Thanks! I thought most people don't use navidrome if they have multiple users because they can't create user-specific playlists. Is this not the case? What music features do you find limiting on Jellyfin? Also, how did you get your family to switch off music streaming for your navidrome server?
The streaming was easy, just declared I wasn't paying for it anymore lol. We still have a crappy version of Spotify for free because of another service (ISP or phone plan something like that), but it's purely used as a backup.
Jellyfin's interface is a bit clunky as a music client in my experience. FinAmp looks cool but it's still early on.
Navidrome does smart playlist, crossfading, gapless, flac streaming, and flac to opus transcoding. Those are sorta my core requirements, and Navidrome + the clients we use handles them all with aplomb.
As for the user playlist thing... I haven't seen anything like that but maybe I'm misunderstanding.
