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  • shimitar@downonthestreet.euS This user is from outside of this forum
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    I don't really get all the hate on the comments. Yes there are tons of note taking alternatives, and yet usually none ever works just perfectly for anybody. More choice is a good thing.

    Yes it saves to a database, but it doesnt seems to be encrypted nor "proprietary" or "vendor lock-in" as the notes are, afterall, plain text and can be extracted from a database easily. Is it the best storage for text notes? not in my opinion, but that is not vendor lock-in.

    My choice is silverbullet on web and Markor on Android, with Synchting in the back (yes, Synchting still works pretty fine on android thanks to the forked app).

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      I don't really get all the hate on the comments. Yes there are tons of note taking alternatives, and yet usually none ever works just perfectly for anybody. More choice is a good thing.

      Yes it saves to a database, but it doesnt seems to be encrypted nor "proprietary" or "vendor lock-in" as the notes are, afterall, plain text and can be extracted from a database easily. Is it the best storage for text notes? not in my opinion, but that is not vendor lock-in.

      My choice is silverbullet on web and Markor on Android, with Synchting in the back (yes, Synchting still works pretty fine on android thanks to the forked app).

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      What is this SyncThing fork? Is it on F-Droid or something? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because everyone praises SyncThing but it straight up does not work. I can get it to sync once, then the next day it will just not connect at all (Android 15 P9Pro/CachyOS)

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        What is this SyncThing fork? Is it on F-Droid or something? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because everyone praises SyncThing but it straight up does not work. I can get it to sync once, then the next day it will just not connect at all (Android 15 P9Pro/CachyOS)

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        I started using syncthing after reading all that praise on lemmy. It deserves all the praise it can get, it's easy to setup and works perfectly.

        what "crazy pills" are you taking?

        syncthing-fork ☞ https://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncthingandroid

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          I started using syncthing after reading all that praise on lemmy. It deserves all the praise it can get, it's easy to setup and works perfectly.

          what "crazy pills" are you taking?

          syncthing-fork ☞ https://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncthingandroid

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          what "crazy pills" are you taking?

          1. Hear people praise SyncThing
          2. Open the Play Store by depressing the tip of my finger on its icon
          3. Search "SyncThing"
          4. Click on first result
          5. Press "Install"
          6. It doesn't work
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            I don't really get all the hate on the comments. Yes there are tons of note taking alternatives, and yet usually none ever works just perfectly for anybody. More choice is a good thing.

            Yes it saves to a database, but it doesnt seems to be encrypted nor "proprietary" or "vendor lock-in" as the notes are, afterall, plain text and can be extracted from a database easily. Is it the best storage for text notes? not in my opinion, but that is not vendor lock-in.

            My choice is silverbullet on web and Markor on Android, with Synchting in the back (yes, Synchting still works pretty fine on android thanks to the forked app).

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            I think the mistake is they titled it "The last note taking app you'll ever need" instead of "The last note taking app I'lll ever need"

            Yes, seriously. The article seems to talk mostly about their personal usecases, which is fine. This app is great and it works for them. But it won't work for everybody and the title should probably respect that instead of having a grating title that evokes a knee jerk reaction.

            Databases are annoying it is legitimately more difficult to export data from a database to another, than it is to copy markdown notes from one folder to another. In addition to that, there are also tools that process markdown and do cool stuff with, like pandoc, beamer, revealjs, etc, which can't really be done with the more opaque database format.

            Also this notetaking service only appears to work while online. Again, fine for them — but a dealbreaker for many people.

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              what "crazy pills" are you taking?

              1. Hear people praise SyncThing
              2. Open the Play Store by depressing the tip of my finger on its icon
              3. Search "SyncThing"
              4. Click on first result
              5. Press "Install"
              6. It doesn't work
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              Yea, that's a lot of ambiguity.

              "Doesn't work". Well, yea, if you only install it on your phone - it's a multi-device sync tool.

              For Windows I recommend SyncTrayzor, for Linux and Mac it's Syncthing, for iOS it's Möbius.

              I've installed it hundreds of times, the only time it hasn't worked was between 2 Android devices of a specific version, and this is a documented thing.

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                Yea, that's a lot of ambiguity.

                "Doesn't work". Well, yea, if you only install it on your phone - it's a multi-device sync tool.

                For Windows I recommend SyncTrayzor, for Linux and Mac it's Syncthing, for iOS it's Möbius.

                I've installed it hundreds of times, the only time it hasn't worked was between 2 Android devices of a specific version, and this is a documented thing.

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                It's ok if you don't like my comment. But I specified in my original comment that I installed on Cachy as well. I value this convo because (hopefully) it will help future people. If you don't know what Linux is that's fine too

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                  I think the mistake is they titled it "The last note taking app you'll ever need" instead of "The last note taking app I'lll ever need"

                  Yes, seriously. The article seems to talk mostly about their personal usecases, which is fine. This app is great and it works for them. But it won't work for everybody and the title should probably respect that instead of having a grating title that evokes a knee jerk reaction.

                  Databases are annoying it is legitimately more difficult to export data from a database to another, than it is to copy markdown notes from one folder to another. In addition to that, there are also tools that process markdown and do cool stuff with, like pandoc, beamer, revealjs, etc, which can't really be done with the more opaque database format.

                  Also this notetaking service only appears to work while online. Again, fine for them — but a dealbreaker for many people.

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                  Really? You think it's the "last note taking app" comment in the description?

                  You don't think maybe it's the shoehorned AI into a project that has no real plan for how it is implemented?

                  Or maybe it's not the ai implementation, maybe it's the fact that "respects your privacy" is incompatible with openai's terms of use (openai can train on your notes if you supply them)?

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                    Really? You think it's the "last note taking app" comment in the description?

                    You don't think maybe it's the shoehorned AI into a project that has no real plan for how it is implemented?

                    Or maybe it's not the ai implementation, maybe it's the fact that "respects your privacy" is incompatible with openai's terms of use (openai can train on your notes if you supply them)?

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                    I'm not spotting it. "AI" is only mentioned once.

                    The key and secret in the docker compose don't seem to be API keys, but keys for directus itself (which upon a careful reread of the article, I realize is not FOSS, which might be anpther reason people don't like it").

                    Directus does seem to have some integration with openai, but it requires at least an api key and this blog post doesn't mention any of that.

                    The current setup they are using doesn't seem to actually connect to openai at all.

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