Greta Thunberg departs Israel on flight to Paris after detention aboard aid ship
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It is known. CNN has always been lib slop
It's actually gotten worse. The management of CNN changed recentlyish and has been pushing CNN more to the right. I think it was to increase viewership, but ultimately just means the quality (not that it was very high to begin with) has dropped.
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Did she ever accomplish anything other than going to places getting arrested and changing absolutely nothing?
What is her job? Going around the world with seemingly unlimited funds and giving some interviews? Just sounds like a Kardashian with extra steps.
What's your job? Whining and bitching about someone doing something that takes more courage than your dumb ass will cumulatively muster over the entirety of your life?
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What an anemic headline. How did she become detained? By an act of piracy and kidnapping in international waters. CNN is a tool of the oligarchs.
Intercepting a ship that intends to run a blockade in international waters is legal according to international law. The flotilla had stated its intention repeatedly and were warned several times before being intercepted and finally boarded.
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She’s defintely an adult. But yeah apprehended in international waters, taken to a country that she didn’t chose to enter willingly, and then deported.
She intended to enter territorial waters and breach the blockade. That’s intention to enter.
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What an anemic headline. How did she become detained? By an act of piracy and kidnapping in international waters. CNN is a tool of the oligarchs.
By an act of piracy and kidnapping in international waters.
you might disagree with what's happening but this was legal. Israel has a blockade there
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Something like that but the important thing is Israel is not claiming they entered the exclusion zone and similarly they even if they did the result is supposed to be being forcibly turned away not kidnapping and property theft.
The flotilla was told several times to turn around or be detained. They decided to not turn around and continued on their intended course to breach the naval blockade.
According to international maritime law Israel can intercept and detain before they enter.
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If you want to get food aid into Gaza, it might be best to smuggle it in using drones or cartel subs.
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Maritime Law (the oldest of international law)
Source?
freedom flotilla yahoos [...] doing things that will hurt your feelings. [...] sovcit [...] pretend
Ew.
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Outside the blockade area and on the high seas,34 belligerents relied on the practice of "visit and search"3s to stop vessels suspected of carrying "con-traband" to the enemy.36 A belligerent warship sailing on the high seas had the right to visit and search all merchant vessels. Merchants found carrying enemy contraband were captured and escorted to the belligerent's nearest home port. The belligerent nation's prize court then determined the fate of the captured ship and cargo.37 In cases where merchants resisted either capture or visit and search, the blockading force was entitled to pursue and, if neces-sary, damage or destroy the vessel to force the ship to submit.
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belligerents today continue to enforce blockades from long distance or through blockade zones. They do so because of three twentieth-century developments in maritime warfare: first, the growing importance to belligerents of conducting economic warfare in conjunction with armed con-flict;s3 second, the introduction of a large array of new weapons to the maritime battlefield; and third, the proliferation of modern weapons to less powerful nations incapable of conducting traditional blockade. In combination, these three developments have forced states to replace traditional blockade form with long-distance blockade or blockade zones.
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Intercepting a ship that intends to run a blockade in international waters is legal according to international law. The flotilla had stated its intention repeatedly and were warned several times before being intercepted and finally boarded.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]That assumes the blockade is legal though? Has an international court that is recognized by the ship’s flag country declared the legality of the blockade?
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Correct to an extent, the accepted meaning is that they must agree to security measures to pass through. It is not and never has been a way to willfully prevent aid and aide staff into combat zones.
They weren't in a blockaded zone as far as I'm aware, Israel only says they were approaching and providing intented destination as you must when attempting to pass through a blockade.
Even ignoring that they must be allowed to leave even if they enter the blockaded area without permission, it isn't a seize your property and imprison your crew for being in the general area openly providing intent kinda thing.
Israel has told the flotilla repeatedly they can deliver the aid through the proper channels and the port of Ashdod.
The small amount of captured aid from the freedom flotilla is being delivered to Gaza by Israel at the moment.
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International law doesn't permit the blockading of humanitarian aid. Israel was allowed to board and inspect the vessel, but not block it from entry.
Humanitarian aid is getting in through land borders into Gaza.
Gaza doesn’t have a port suitable for delivering large amounts of goods in the first place. Aid delivery has to go through the proper channels.
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Enact blockades in international waters?
Yes, that’s how blockades work. https://openyls.law.yale.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.13051/8684/43_101YaleLJ893_1991_1992_.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y
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Right here. I would have never in a million years have imagined that they would just let her go. This is an extremely surprising turn of events.
Consider this: You might be misinformed about the whole situation.
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Outside the blockade area and on the high seas,34 belligerents relied on the practice of "visit and search"3s to stop vessels suspected of carrying "con-traband" to the enemy.36 A belligerent warship sailing on the high seas had the right to visit and search all merchant vessels. Merchants found carrying enemy contraband were captured and escorted to the belligerent's nearest home port. The belligerent nation's prize court then determined the fate of the captured ship and cargo.37 In cases where merchants resisted either capture or visit and search, the blockading force was entitled to pursue and, if neces-sary, damage or destroy the vessel to force the ship to submit.
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belligerents today continue to enforce blockades from long distance or through blockade zones. They do so because of three twentieth-century developments in maritime warfare: first, the growing importance to belligerents of conducting economic warfare in conjunction with armed con-flict;s3 second, the introduction of a large array of new weapons to the maritime battlefield; and third, the proliferation of modern weapons to less powerful nations incapable of conducting traditional blockade. In combination, these three developments have forced states to replace traditional blockade form with long-distance blockade or blockade zones.
No, source for it being the oldest part.
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That assumes the blockade is legal though? Has an international court that is recognized by the ship’s flag country declared the legality of the blockade?
I don’t know of a court ruling. The UN‘s Palmer Report declared it Legal.
However as with lots of things regarding international law, there are different opinions.
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By an act of piracy and kidnapping in international waters.
you might disagree with what's happening but this was legal. Israel has a blockade there
It's a really good example of how abuse and evil can often be legal while doing what's right can often be illegal.
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I honestly didn't expect her to survive this one. She made it publicly known what she was doing so Israel couldn't say it was a normal bombing of transport ships. But I figured they would use her as an example and destroy the ship.
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Israel has told the flotilla repeatedly they can deliver the aid through the proper channels and the port of Ashdod.
The small amount of captured aid from the freedom flotilla is being delivered to Gaza by Israel at the moment.
Correct, they hadn't entered the area yet though so they technically heeded their warning.
Stolen, if you take something from someone and dispense it as your own you're guilty of theft and conversion something they say Hamas does with aid. And moreover delivering aid doesn't negate the whole unlawful boarding, seizure and forcible human trafficking thing.
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The flotilla was told several times to turn around or be detained. They decided to not turn around and continued on their intended course to breach the naval blockade.
According to international maritime law Israel can intercept and detain before they enter.
Notice you never said they did breach the blockade which btw by international law they have to be given time and allowed to leave even if they enter without permission which they didn't do nor is Israel claiming they did.
Intercept and detain yes, board, seizur, deport and treat as their own... No because duh.
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Gaza is under a declared blockade, Maritime Law (the oldest of international law) allows detaining any ship bound for a blockaded port. It's really cut and dry, they very publicly declared they were bound for a blockaded port. It's not like Israel boarded a ship that just happened to be in the area, these freedom flotilla yahoos very publicly declared they were bound for Gaza, which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.
International law is an agreement between nations and doesn't actually restrict nations from doing things that will hurt your feelings. You're going down the sovcit path when you pretend international law is whatever you want it to be.
they very publicly declared they were bound for a blockaded port.
Not illegal.
which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.
Not detain and seize, maritime law is very specific in that a blockade cannot block aid unreasonably. A super famous ship you've searched that's filled solely with celebrities and aid is something you shouldn't turn away so long as they accept security arrangements like boarding and searching. This isn't star wars nor are they the trade union and total blockades like your implying are very illegal as defined by the law you're sourcing.
