So um, the united states just started another war in the middle east. We're going to need a shit ton more memes to distract americans from the nightmare they are enduring. Thanks in advance...
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What are you talking about? In any ethical framework, the trolley problem presents you with the conflicting guilts of action and inaction. The ethical frameworks don't do anything but justify whichever guilt you choose.
https://medium.com/@ashwinjitsingh/the-trolly-problem-utilitarianism-vs-deontology-bd624a8e321e
If one were to take a utilitarian standpoint, the means are justified by the end, which from a utilitarianist perspective, is the maximization of benefit. Hence, for a utilitarianist, whatever option guarantees the outcome of the maximum benefit is what is moral. Therefore, in the trolly case, a follower of classical utilitarianism would say that it is morally permissible to sacrifice 1 to save 5.
The deontological perspective in contrast, advocates for the means justifying the end. This, for a deontologist, the morality of the action should be based on whether the action itself is right or wrong under a series of rules, rather than being based on the consequence. In this light, a follower of deontologism would argue that it is morally impermissible to sacrifice one to save five because making the choice of having to kill someone is inherently wrong.
Again, this is the entire point of the trolley problem. No one actually give a shit about the hypothetical trolley. The whole point is to explore how different ethical systems can lead to different outcomes. There is no "right answer" to the trolley problem.
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"Disteact [Americans] from the nightmare THEY are enduring"???
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Then you had 5 years to witness the fallout from 2019 to 2024.
Um, wasn't that largely Biden's administration?
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"Disteact [Americans] from the nightmare THEY are enduring"???
Yeah. Keep them in the memes as to distract them from the dystopia right outside their doors.
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Um, wasn't that largely Biden's administration?
Jfc. Do you think that ramifications end on a dime? Can you not extrapolate information based on context? The biden admin has plenty to criticize, but this appeal to ignorance is lame as shit. If you've been living under a rock then just shut tf up for a minute and read or some shit.
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https://medium.com/@ashwinjitsingh/the-trolly-problem-utilitarianism-vs-deontology-bd624a8e321e
If one were to take a utilitarian standpoint, the means are justified by the end, which from a utilitarianist perspective, is the maximization of benefit. Hence, for a utilitarianist, whatever option guarantees the outcome of the maximum benefit is what is moral. Therefore, in the trolly case, a follower of classical utilitarianism would say that it is morally permissible to sacrifice 1 to save 5.
The deontological perspective in contrast, advocates for the means justifying the end. This, for a deontologist, the morality of the action should be based on whether the action itself is right or wrong under a series of rules, rather than being based on the consequence. In this light, a follower of deontologism would argue that it is morally impermissible to sacrifice one to save five because making the choice of having to kill someone is inherently wrong.
Again, this is the entire point of the trolley problem. No one actually give a shit about the hypothetical trolley. The whole point is to explore how different ethical systems can lead to different outcomes. There is no "right answer" to the trolley problem.
wrote last edited by [email protected]How does that have anything to do with what I said? What I said was
In any ethical framework, the trolley problem presents you with the conflicting guilts of action and inaction. The ethical frameworks don't do anything but justify whichever guilt you choose.
When did I say there was a right answer?
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"Disteact [Americans] from the nightmare THEY are enduring"???
Well to be fair, there's no memes in the world that distract people living under the shadow of bomb and missile strikes.
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I didn't have TV from 2016 to 2019.
I didn't have Internet from 2016 to 2021.
So you had an internet connection for three years prior to the election of 2024 to include the very long campaign cycle, and didn't think "You know what? This guy has already been president, so let's look up how that went."
You should not have the right to vote.
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Yeah. Keep them in the memes as to distract them from the dystopia right outside their doors.
They are dragging the entire world into their insanity.
The rest of the world has to endure America.
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Um, wasn't that largely Biden's administration?
Yes, during which various consequences for the previous 4 years transpired. The effects of his first term rippled on for years. Several ongoing court cases against him for actions during his first term ran long enough to be dismissed because he got elected the second time.
Also did you just not attempt to learn absolutely anything about the time you were away?
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What I hope for those in other countries, is that they understand that I had no control or decision of what vagina I fell out of or what dirt I landed on.
I did not choose to be American, I was just born here. And I most certainly do not agree or approve of any war.
I do hope most other decent people might agree with me.
Fuck Donald Turd.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You didn’t choose to be born American, but per your own admission in this thread you chose not to vote. So you can fuck all the way off with this sanctimonious bullshit.
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No, the Americans need to be consistently reminded of what their government is doing so that there's at least the slightest chance they'll put a stop to it. They don't get to ignore the problem, it's their job to fix it. They are not babies to be coddled.
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I’m not as mad at the 32% that elected trump as I am at the ones that sat at home and let it happen.
It's liberals like you who let America become a dictatorship when you voted for Genocide Joe last year
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No, the Americans need to be consistently reminded of what their government is doing so that there's at least the slightest chance they'll put a stop to it. They don't get to ignore the problem, it's their job to fix it. They are not babies to be coddled.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I have no clue what to do. I'm American. I'm trans. I voted for Harris. I live in a blue state. I've gone to protests. I've talked to state senators about legislation. I've canvassed. I've talked to Trump supporters and tried to get them to change their minds.
it all feels totally useless. nothing I've done has had any effect. my own mom voted for Trump three times. it's like being chained to an anvil and thrown overboard. I'm swimming but I'm still drowning.
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It's liberals like you who let America become a dictatorship when you voted for Genocide Joe last year
Last year?
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Almost like we are the baddies
Bestween this and Yemen, Palestine, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Guatemala, Chile, Cuba, Indonesia, Timor, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea you'd almost start to think that. I wonder how many countries the real baddies have attacked. Must be way more.
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I have no clue what to do. I'm American. I'm trans. I voted for Harris. I live in a blue state. I've gone to protests. I've talked to state senators about legislation. I've canvassed. I've talked to Trump supporters and tried to get them to change their minds.
it all feels totally useless. nothing I've done has had any effect. my own mom voted for Trump three times. it's like being chained to an anvil and thrown overboard. I'm swimming but I'm still drowning.
You do know what to do and you are doing it! It's not going to magically solve everything but you are doing more than most people.
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You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.
We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.
They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.
We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!
If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.
Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!
Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.
Eh, a Trump scenario was inevitable unless people grew balls and voted for someone like Vermin Supreme. You have to be the first one to vote third party.
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Bombs are falling in the Middle East, but it is Americans who are in a nightmare? Lol.
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I have no clue what to do. I'm American. I'm trans. I voted for Harris. I live in a blue state. I've gone to protests. I've talked to state senators about legislation. I've canvassed. I've talked to Trump supporters and tried to get them to change their minds.
it all feels totally useless. nothing I've done has had any effect. my own mom voted for Trump three times. it's like being chained to an anvil and thrown overboard. I'm swimming but I'm still drowning.
Continue doing exactly that and convince others to do the same. It's a slow process but the only way to fix things.
