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'Every word has come back to haunt me': China cracks down on women who write gay erotica

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  • R [email protected]

    As much as I like to stan China for how they treat their billionaires and corporations, this is wrong. Sex work, in all its forms, is a valid, lucrative, and old line of work across the world. China is one of the most developed nations on Earth. They should also be the most progressive when it comes to this. Smh

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    Weirdly they are more progressive when it comes to prostitution; prostitution isnt illegal, but soliciting it is.

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black

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      Use of the expression to discredit or deflect a claim of wrongdoing by attacking the originator of the claim for their own similar behaviour (rather than acknowledging the guilt of both) is the tu quoque logical fallacy.

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        Use of the expression to discredit or deflect a claim of wrongdoing by attacking the originator of the claim for their own similar behaviour (rather than acknowledging the guilt of both) is the tu quoque logical fallacy.

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        My own similar behavior? I'm not shoving gays into prison, you fucking idiot.

        This isn't high school debate club and knowing two latin words doesn't make you smart

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        • N [email protected]

          I mean there's something very hypocritical in westerners, living in the countries who manufacture, sell, sometime give actual tanks all over the world, calling people "tankies" lmao

          We get it, the ussr sent tanks in the 80ies. Your country sent tanks half a dozen time since then, idiot. There are tanks doing genocide right now in gaza.

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          No, there isn’t. Anyone claiming to support the liberation of the working classes while praising authoritarian systems that are cracking down on those populations looking for freedom are hypocrites.

          It’s weird you would make this about geographic location. Are you doing that because you don’t have a valid critique?

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            Prove it

            The term continued to be used into the 1980s, especially in relation to the split between the reform-minded eurocommunist wing of the CPGB and the traditionalist, pro-Soviet group, the latter continuing to be labelled tankies. The term is sometimes used within the Labour Party as slang for a politically old-fashioned leftist. Alastair Campbell reported a conversation about modernising education, in which Tony Blair said: "I'm with George Walden on selection." Campbell recalled: "DM [David Miliband] looked aghast ... [Blair] said when it came to education, DM and I were just a couple of old tankies."[26] In 2015, Boris Johnson referred to Jeremy Corbyn and the left wing of the Labour Party as "tankies and trots", the latter referring to Trotskyism.[27][b]

            Used by great people like tony blair and bobo the clown lmao

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            You need to provide a source if you are quoting one.

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              No, there isn’t. Anyone claiming to support the liberation of the working classes while praising authoritarian systems that are cracking down on those populations looking for freedom are hypocrites.

              It’s weird you would make this about geographic location. Are you doing that because you don’t have a valid critique?

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              The thing is in your westoid brain, "praising authoritarian systems" just means "not wanting to bomb iran".

              How's lockheed martin dick taste like? Enjoying it?

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                You need to provide a source if you are quoting one.

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                It's the same article you fucking idiot

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                  My own similar behavior? I'm not shoving gays into prison, you fucking idiot.

                  This isn't high school debate club and knowing two latin words doesn't make you smart

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                  Your behavior would have gotten you kicked out of a high school debate club by now.

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                    It's the same article you fucking idiot

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                    What article? It’s not the article being discussed and your google link sucks for the reasons already explained.

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                      The thing is in your westoid brain, "praising authoritarian systems" just means "not wanting to bomb iran".

                      How's lockheed martin dick taste like? Enjoying it?

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                      So you are only capable of ad hominem discussions? That really speaks to your intellectual skills.

                      You know you can just be opposed to authoritarianism. Most decent folk are.

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                      • R [email protected]

                        As much as I like to stan China for how they treat their billionaires and corporations, this is wrong. Sex work, in all its forms, is a valid, lucrative, and old line of work across the world. China is one of the most developed nations on Earth. They should also be the most progressive when it comes to this. Smh

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                        They should also be the most progressive

                        The tankie government that denies Tiananmen Square doesn't have much regard for individual rights?

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                          They should also be the most progressive

                          The tankie government that denies Tiananmen Square doesn't have much regard for individual rights?

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                          More like porn is illegal, just like in half the US. Give it two years we'll hear much worse about gay erotica artists being arrested in Texas and held without trial

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                          • N [email protected]

                            It's not whataboutism to tell the pot to shut the fuck up when it's calling the kettle black

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                            WAHHHHH THE (non atrocity causing civilians of) COUNTRIES THAT COMMIT ATROCITIES ARE CALLING OUT MY TEAM AND I FEEL MORALLY OBLIGATED TO DEFEND MY TEAM FOR THEIR ATROCITIES.

                            -you

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                              Yeah porn is so empowering.. Very progressive

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                              the exploitation industry if writing erotica for the fun of it and putting it online.

                              would anyone think of the exploited IT workers who maintain the wattpad servers

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                              • R [email protected]

                                As much as I like to stan China for how they treat their billionaires and corporations, this is wrong. Sex work, in all its forms, is a valid, lucrative, and old line of work across the world. China is one of the most developed nations on Earth. They should also be the most progressive when it comes to this. Smh

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                                it's valid to support some policies in some places without it making you a fervant supporter of everything that state does.

                                like I love how china actually invests in infrastructure, including housing and public transit and walkable cities.

                                I dont like what they do in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

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                                  My own similar behavior? I'm not shoving gays into prison, you fucking idiot.

                                  This isn't high school debate club and knowing two latin words doesn't make you smart

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                                  I quoted directly from the Wikipedia page you provided but okay 🤷‍♂️.

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                                    Yeah porn is so empowering..

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                                    Why do you keep posting this? Your problem isn't with people looking at naked pictures or lewd stories, it's with exploitation. That's a capitalist problem, not a porn one. Are you suggesting that in cases of capitalist exploitation we ban the exploited industry instead of regulating the capitalists?

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                                      Yeah porn is so empowering.. Very progressive

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                                      Yes because only unethically-produced porn exists...? I don't get your point.

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                                        There are also well-known entrepreneurs who have lost their lives due to such extortion.

                                        I'd be interested to read more, but I'm not sure I've heard about "distant sea fishing" before. Can you pass the articles/links to the stories you're referencing?

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                                        I’d be interested to read more, but I’m not sure I’ve heard about “distant sea fishing” before. Can you pass the articles/links to the stories you’re referencing?

                                        This matter is not a secret on the internet in China; there are many open discussions about it. The police in many places have taken proactive measures against this.

                                        The content of the image is: "Note: Police from other regions are not allowed to illegally enter enterprises to investigate cases."

                                        This Chinese article explains quite clearly: The chilling new trends in 'distant sea fishing'.

                                        The Supreme Court has already paid great attention to this kind of phenomenon:

                                        To prevent 'distant sea fishing' style law enforcement, the Supreme Court has taken action.

                                        Notice from the Supreme People's Court on Upholding Strict and Fair Judicial Norms in the Trial and Enforcement of Cases Involving Enterprises

                                        "Five prohibitions" and "eight must nots"... The State Council issued a document to strictly regulate administrative inspections related to enterprises

                                        How to regulate enterprise-related law enforcement, prevent the rebound of issues, and boost enterprise confidence?

                                        Addressing the prominent issues reflected by businesses with concrete actions - The State Council Information Office introduces the latest progress of the special action to standardize administrative law enforcement involving enterprises

                                        I have to say, the effectiveness of these measures is limited. If these types of actions have decreased, it is mainly because companies have become more vigilant, making robbery more difficult.

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                                          Sticking your fingers in your ears while screaming like a baby does not make reality disappear.

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                                          "reality"

                                          every single time i read a bbc article about china it has been a lie upon closer inspection.

                                          you should take western propaganda out of your ears.

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