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'Every word has come back to haunt me': China cracks down on women who write gay erotica

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    Yeah porn is so empowering..

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      Very typical .ml whataboutism. Both things can be bad at the same time. This is not a null sum game.

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      It's not whataboutism to tell the pot to shut the fuck up when it's calling the kettle black

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black

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          USA is very much the "west".

          The "west" is a code for "country who think of themselves as white and civilised".

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            This isn’t about some online community as much as it is a comment on tankies.

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            Obsessions with "TAnKies" is very much a reddit / lemmy thing, or at least internet slang.

            https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=tankie&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3>

            Before 2010 it was mostly used to mean "actual tank fighters".

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              Obsessions with "TAnKies" is very much a reddit / lemmy thing, or at least internet slang.

              https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=tankie&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3>

              Before 2010 it was mostly used to mean "actual tank fighters".

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              Nope, that’s been used for decades you are just seeing the limitations of google’s tools as it happened in places they do not index

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                Nope, that’s been used for decades you are just seeing the limitations of google’s tools as it happened in places they do not index

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                Prove it

                The term continued to be used into the 1980s, especially in relation to the split between the reform-minded eurocommunist wing of the CPGB and the traditionalist, pro-Soviet group, the latter continuing to be labelled tankies. The term is sometimes used within the Labour Party as slang for a politically old-fashioned leftist. Alastair Campbell reported a conversation about modernising education, in which Tony Blair said: "I'm with George Walden on selection." Campbell recalled: "DM [David Miliband] looked aghast ... [Blair] said when it came to education, DM and I were just a couple of old tankies."[26] In 2015, Boris Johnson referred to Jeremy Corbyn and the left wing of the Labour Party as "tankies and trots", the latter referring to Trotskyism.[27][b]

                Used by great people like tony blair and bobo the clown lmao

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                  All the posts I read were defending or excusing it.

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                  Applying nuance and researching more context instead of jerking off while grunting "china bad authoritarianism" isnt defending or excusing. You're just annoyed they dont join your circlejerk.

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                    Nope, that’s been used for decades you are just seeing the limitations of google’s tools as it happened in places they do not index

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                    I mean there's something very hypocritical in westerners, living in the countries who manufacture, sell, sometime give actual tanks all over the world, calling people "tankies" lmao

                    We get it, the ussr sent tanks in the 80ies. Your country sent tanks half a dozen time since then, idiot. There are tanks doing genocide right now in gaza.

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                      As much as I like to stan China for how they treat their billionaires and corporations, this is wrong. Sex work, in all its forms, is a valid, lucrative, and old line of work across the world. China is one of the most developed nations on Earth. They should also be the most progressive when it comes to this. Smh

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                      Weirdly they are more progressive when it comes to prostitution; prostitution isnt illegal, but soliciting it is.

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                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black

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                        Use of the expression to discredit or deflect a claim of wrongdoing by attacking the originator of the claim for their own similar behaviour (rather than acknowledging the guilt of both) is the tu quoque logical fallacy.

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                          Use of the expression to discredit or deflect a claim of wrongdoing by attacking the originator of the claim for their own similar behaviour (rather than acknowledging the guilt of both) is the tu quoque logical fallacy.

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                          My own similar behavior? I'm not shoving gays into prison, you fucking idiot.

                          This isn't high school debate club and knowing two latin words doesn't make you smart

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                            I mean there's something very hypocritical in westerners, living in the countries who manufacture, sell, sometime give actual tanks all over the world, calling people "tankies" lmao

                            We get it, the ussr sent tanks in the 80ies. Your country sent tanks half a dozen time since then, idiot. There are tanks doing genocide right now in gaza.

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                            No, there isn’t. Anyone claiming to support the liberation of the working classes while praising authoritarian systems that are cracking down on those populations looking for freedom are hypocrites.

                            It’s weird you would make this about geographic location. Are you doing that because you don’t have a valid critique?

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                              Prove it

                              The term continued to be used into the 1980s, especially in relation to the split between the reform-minded eurocommunist wing of the CPGB and the traditionalist, pro-Soviet group, the latter continuing to be labelled tankies. The term is sometimes used within the Labour Party as slang for a politically old-fashioned leftist. Alastair Campbell reported a conversation about modernising education, in which Tony Blair said: "I'm with George Walden on selection." Campbell recalled: "DM [David Miliband] looked aghast ... [Blair] said when it came to education, DM and I were just a couple of old tankies."[26] In 2015, Boris Johnson referred to Jeremy Corbyn and the left wing of the Labour Party as "tankies and trots", the latter referring to Trotskyism.[27][b]

                              Used by great people like tony blair and bobo the clown lmao

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                              You need to provide a source if you are quoting one.

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                                No, there isn’t. Anyone claiming to support the liberation of the working classes while praising authoritarian systems that are cracking down on those populations looking for freedom are hypocrites.

                                It’s weird you would make this about geographic location. Are you doing that because you don’t have a valid critique?

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                                The thing is in your westoid brain, "praising authoritarian systems" just means "not wanting to bomb iran".

                                How's lockheed martin dick taste like? Enjoying it?

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                                  You need to provide a source if you are quoting one.

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                                  It's the same article you fucking idiot

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                                    My own similar behavior? I'm not shoving gays into prison, you fucking idiot.

                                    This isn't high school debate club and knowing two latin words doesn't make you smart

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                                    Your behavior would have gotten you kicked out of a high school debate club by now.

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                                      It's the same article you fucking idiot

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                                      What article? It’s not the article being discussed and your google link sucks for the reasons already explained.

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                                        The thing is in your westoid brain, "praising authoritarian systems" just means "not wanting to bomb iran".

                                        How's lockheed martin dick taste like? Enjoying it?

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                                        So you are only capable of ad hominem discussions? That really speaks to your intellectual skills.

                                        You know you can just be opposed to authoritarianism. Most decent folk are.

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                                          As much as I like to stan China for how they treat their billionaires and corporations, this is wrong. Sex work, in all its forms, is a valid, lucrative, and old line of work across the world. China is one of the most developed nations on Earth. They should also be the most progressive when it comes to this. Smh

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                                          They should also be the most progressive

                                          The tankie government that denies Tiananmen Square doesn't have much regard for individual rights?

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