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      Only if you get caught.

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      • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

        strict ≠ abusive

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        The difference can often be negligible to a child's eyes depending on how 'strict' lessons are worded or otherwise expressed. If it is always with scolding after a lack of instruction turned in to idle entertainment that went awry, it sometimes doesn't really matter how relevant the information was.

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        • stinerman@midwest.socialS [email protected]

          I found out at a previous position that the best way to get my work done was to be short with people. In that case they wouldn't bother me, and I had more time to do my work.

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          I found out at a previous position that the best way to get my work done masturbate in the mail room was to be short with people. In that case they wouldn't bother me, and I had more time to do my work masturbate in the mail room.

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          • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

            There's a difference between strict and abusive.

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            This post is starting to make me think people say "strict" strictly as a euphemism.

            What I think it means: The parents never bend the rules for their kids.

            What it apparently means: The parents have anger problems.

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              My parents were strict about things that didn't matter. They taught swear words and being gay was bad but never taught me anything about surviving life or making money or managing hobbies or anything having to do with self growth or independence.

              They limited my ability to grow. Along with society at the time and then blamed me when for it when I became an adult and was socially dysfunctional.

              It's weird... If you're not teaching your kids no one really is. They'll end up learning from entertainment or people taking advantage of them. But still people have kids like it's a set it and forget it process and then blame the kid/person for not knowing x thing.

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              Religious?

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                What is strict? When I was a kid that was a wooden spoon or a belt. Across the backside or hands. As well as a long list of chores. The strap still hung on the wall of the principal's office at school as a warning but didn't get used anymore. Mostly suspensions and expulsions were the flavor of the day.

                I got called a strict parent on Lemmy not so long ago because we limit screen time in our house to an hour a day with some exceptions. Our kids walk to town alone at 10 years old though (2 km one way) and have the knowledge and awareness to manage on their own. We trust them and they in turn make mostly good choices. They are kids after all.

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                Also, strict doesn't necessarily equal bad in the first place

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                • A [email protected]

                  This one hits a little too close to home...

                  Also, the word you're looking for might be "abusive" rather than "strict".

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                  The word you're looking for . . .

                  Might be, but almost certainly is not.

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                  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                    There's a difference between strict and abusive.

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                    Strict is bad enough.

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                      This one hits a little too close to home...

                      Also, the word you're looking for might be "abusive" rather than "strict".

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                      Extreme strictness is a form of abuse. These symptoms are particular, though not individually exclusive, to strictness. As long as you "behave" you avoid the material effects of the abuse. Other forms of abuse typically have fewer "rules" that can be used as safeguards.

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                        Only if you get caught.

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                        If it is your own parents grave I’m fairly certain you can claim you were mourning and had to go

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                        • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                          There's a difference between strict and abusive.

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                          Both are dumb as shit

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                            Religious?

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                            My dad was on point with religion. Partially maybe "got". An ex alcoholic etc... but he is somewhat down to earth.

                            My mom didn't/doesn't understand spirituality ...i don't think. It's just raw religious power. Her Mom was my babysitter for the first 6 years of my life. I wasn't allowed to watch Nickelodeon. I think I vaguely remember not being able to watch sesame street. She would talk about angels.

                            I don't disagree with her now.. Nickelodeon and sesame Street is bullshit. But I don't think I wouldn't let a kid watch it or call it evil like if you watched it you'd go to hell.... Ide teach them that it's marketed ideology being taught, or at least try...

                            But as a kid. Maybe 8 or 9 I didn't realize it absolutely at the time but I was gay curious. I told myself I would kill myself because from my environment I knew that was wrong. I always told myself at least by the time I graduated highschool I would kms. Graduation came... I found weed and alcohol... So I stayed alive. I said... At 21 I will kill myself. My 21st b day came. I got stoned and drank till I was wasted and hated every moment of it. I stayed alive. I'll kms when I'm 25 I said. I turned 25... Same story... Weed and alcohol.. underground interest...

                            I'm almost 40 now. And life gets more fucked ... But now I dgaf. Fuck this place.

                            I've put a noose around my neck and tightened it till I pass out.

                            Everyday it looks more real that you are not actually crazy and American life might be a hell for humanity.

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                              I found out at a previous position that the best way to get my work done was to be short with people. In that case they wouldn't bother me, and I had more time to do my work.

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                              • elephantium@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                                This post is starting to make me think people say "strict" strictly as a euphemism.

                                What I think it means: The parents never bend the rules for their kids.

                                What it apparently means: The parents have anger problems.

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                                The problem is it's often difficult to admit you had abusive parents, and abusive parents love to describe themselves as just strict. So yeah it's kinda a euphemism

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                                  My folks were technology skeptics and limited access to screens. We had strict allotments of time to access electronics.

                                  This taught us how to game the rules and make up arguments to justify our discretions.

                                  They were also lawyers, so we walked into the first trap.

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                                  As someone who was raised in a firmly careered household (engineering though) it's always interesting to see other variations on it.

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                                    Yeah, my parents made us leave our cell phones on the kitchen counter so they could read our texts every night, and they installed software on our computers that took screenshots every 5 seconds.

                                    I wonder why I have issues with authority figures and privacy?

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                                    You had a cell phone as a child? Musta been nice. I had no door on my bedroom doorframe and wasn't aloud out of the house except under rare circumstances.

                                    Didn't mean I was willing to follow the rules. All that strictness caused me to simply rebel to all authority figures. Seriously, ask me my opinions about police or the government. Lol.

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                                    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                      There's a difference between strict and abusive.

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                                      I once cut a small artery above my left elbow right before I left work (We were young and just fucking around) Cant remember my exact age, probably late 16 early 17. I took my undershirt off and tied it around my arm to try to slow the bleeding while I drove home. The blood goes threw the shirt, and is all over the inside car door, seatbelt and created a puddle on my pants in the creases because they were those Dickies work pants that are water resistant. When I got out of the car I heard the blood splat on the ground so I figured it was to much. Went inside tied yarn tightly above it and wrapped an old shirt again around it to replace that one as I didn't have any superglue. I spent the hours of 330am-630am crawling in circles around the house with 2 bottles of resolve, paper towels and wet rags in a bucket trying to clean blood drops off the carpets and floors from when I walked in. The entire time dropping more blood in a near endless cleanup chain with only one thought on my mind. My mother is going to fucking kill me for getting blood on her carpets. At 630 (they open at 7), dizzy as all get out from lack of sleep and blood loss I got back in my car to drive to the clinic just hoping no one pulled me over or I passed out driving. I got there with a blood soaked rag wrapped around my arm and the lady handed me a 2 page clipboard to fill out and I remember staring at her with an expression that clearly said, can't I fill this out while he stitches my arm? Of course not, so 5 minutes later I hand her a clip board mostly free of blood and paperwork that says I have no insurance.

                                      The clinic doctor was great. Told him I had no insurance and couldn't afford anesthetic and asked if he could just do it without. He cleaned it a bit, poked me with a needle of some kind and put in 7 or so stitches. Then marked it down as a consult or something, so I wasn't charged with any of the items he needed/used. (Like $40 for the visit)

                                      I'll always remember that guy.
                                      Moral/point of the story though... If you are less afraid of bleeding to death than you are to ask your parents for help, your parents might be abusive as opposed to strict.

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                                        Strict is bad enough.

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                                        Strict is only "bad" when the structure is bad.

                                        Being strict about not playing with fire is a good thing. Being strict about never going near a campfire is, at best neutral, and could be bad when taken to an extreme. Being strict about never going camping is bad.

                                        Strict only means keeping rules in place. It doesn't mean you can't be flexible, that you can't adjust rules as the kid ages and matures. It definitely doesn't mean the rules have to be arbitrary and can't be explained and discussed.

                                        You think being strict about a kid not using racial slurs is a bad thing?

                                        Or making them see a doctor regularly and as needed?

                                        Or that they bathe?

                                        The list of things that can't be negotiable is very long if you go into detail.

                                        The list of things that can't be negotiable at a given level of age and maturity isn't short either.

                                        Strict doesn't have to be done badly at all. It's just that uncompromising strictness is the opposite end of a slider from utter laissez faire. Which has just as many flaws.

                                        There's a reason that authoritative is the usual recommended goal; it's being strict when necessary, and loose when not. But "strict" is part of that. Strict is making sure that there's a reliable structure a kid can build a foundation of self on. It's the walls of the sandbox and the sheet of material under out that keeps weeds from poking through.

                                        The sandbox of development is the freedom to play within those boundaries. It doesn't have to mean all noes, or all have tos.

                                        Strict is, "you'll do your homework because it's part of the process of learning. When do you want to do it, and what can I do to help?"

                                        Abusive is "you'll do your homework or I'll beat your ass", and then beating their ass as the first and only option.

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                                          Ok but tbf those are all great skills to have

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                                          Our parents used to lock up the TV, their room, and food. Guess who got really good at breaking into things and making it look like anything was amiss

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