I'm Getting Real Tired Of Not Being Able To Trust That A Video Game Doesn't Have AI Crap In It - Aftermath
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Some video games have been trying to use generative AI for years now, and for the most part people simply have not been having it. Why would we? It's lazy, it's ugly, it's an ethical black hole and it's being driven by an executive class desperate to lay off even more workers. While earlier and more brazen attempts at employing the tech were obvious, lately it's becoming more common for studios to slide a little AI-generated content in without drawing attention to it.
Jurassic World Evolution 3 launched with some AI-generated character portraits, then got bullied into removing them. Clair Obscur, which will be a lot of people's game of the year, appeared to quietly launch with some AI-generated art then just as quietly patch it out. I was going to review the city-building grand strategy game Kaiserpunk until I saw they were using AI-generated images for their dialogue sections, after which I promptly uninstalled it.
The latest culprit is The Alters, which has found to have shipped not only with AI-generated placeholder text in-game, but also employed AI-generated translations in some of its side content as well. None of this was disclosed prior to the game's release; it was all discovered later, by players, and has prompted an explanation of sorts from the developers which tries to calm everyone down, but which has just made things worse, because if it took people discovering these specific instances to find that 11 Bit had used AI-generated content in the game's development, how do we know there's not more of it?
Bruh even fucking Kaiserpunk? I was super excited about that game.
Fucking hate this timeline man.
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Well that author is not playing any games any time soon. Or he probably will after this artificial rage topic is gone.
GenAI is here to stay and it makes stuff way easier and way faster.Way fucking shittier too. You conveniently left that part out.
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No no, please give me those vast definitely not procedural generated landscapes of open world games - no even better give me the infinite world of Minecraft that is just procedurally generated and those wall and floor textures that some poor overworked artis generated by putting a noise filter on gray and brown squares.
Oh you can't imagine how much I love the dialogue choices that totally make sense.
And the always identical animations of every character I meet in my gamesBut I really despise this regurgitated stuff from an AI, especially the translations of languages that I don't understand. Or variated character models or some textures that I usually only notice if they were missing.
Raging about AI is a trend. It will go away like gamergate, shutting down reddit 3rd party apps and removing porn from Flickr.
Those who add value to their products with GenAI will prevail.So rage in harmony with other haters instead of improving by being constructive.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I don't play Minecraft. I don't like procedural generation. I didn't bring them up.
GenAI is a lazy shortcut for the untalented or dispassionate. It can help in wireframing for an idea, sometimes, but any more than that and it falls down, in my opinion.
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No no, please give me those vast definitely not procedural generated landscapes of open world games - no even better give me the infinite world of Minecraft that is just procedurally generated and those wall and floor textures that some poor overworked artis generated by putting a noise filter on gray and brown squares.
Oh you can't imagine how much I love the dialogue choices that totally make sense.
And the always identical animations of every character I meet in my gamesBut I really despise this regurgitated stuff from an AI, especially the translations of languages that I don't understand. Or variated character models or some textures that I usually only notice if they were missing.
Raging about AI is a trend. It will go away like gamergate, shutting down reddit 3rd party apps and removing porn from Flickr.
Those who add value to their products with GenAI will prevail.So rage in harmony with other haters instead of improving by being constructive.
Dude, just let AI fuck your wife too. It can probably do it better than you can.
especially the translations of languages that I don't understand.
God forbid we dignify those people with a personal touch. Yeah, just let google translate do it: a technology famous for giving really good translations.
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Some video games have been trying to use generative AI for years now, and for the most part people simply have not been having it. Why would we? It's lazy, it's ugly, it's an ethical black hole and it's being driven by an executive class desperate to lay off even more workers. While earlier and more brazen attempts at employing the tech were obvious, lately it's becoming more common for studios to slide a little AI-generated content in without drawing attention to it.
Jurassic World Evolution 3 launched with some AI-generated character portraits, then got bullied into removing them. Clair Obscur, which will be a lot of people's game of the year, appeared to quietly launch with some AI-generated art then just as quietly patch it out. I was going to review the city-building grand strategy game Kaiserpunk until I saw they were using AI-generated images for their dialogue sections, after which I promptly uninstalled it.
The latest culprit is The Alters, which has found to have shipped not only with AI-generated placeholder text in-game, but also employed AI-generated translations in some of its side content as well. None of this was disclosed prior to the game's release; it was all discovered later, by players, and has prompted an explanation of sorts from the developers which tries to calm everyone down, but which has just made things worse, because if it took people discovering these specific instances to find that 11 Bit had used AI-generated content in the game's development, how do we know there's not more of it?
I saw some early demos and hoped that AI could bring about a revolution in on-the-fly procedural generated content for gaming to do things that would be literally impossible by other methods. But no, instead it has been used to replace artists to produce poor-quality pre-generated static content and I couldn't be more disappointed.
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I don't play Minecraft. I don't like procedural generation. I didn't bring them up.
GenAI is a lazy shortcut for the untalented or dispassionate. It can help in wireframing for an idea, sometimes, but any more than that and it falls down, in my opinion.
GenAI is a lazy shortcut for the untalented or dispassionate.
I'm going to steal this
Ironically, I won't credit you
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I saw some early demos and hoped that AI could bring about a revolution in on-the-fly procedural generated content for gaming to do things that would be literally impossible by other methods. But no, instead it has been used to replace artists to produce poor-quality pre-generated static content and I couldn't be more disappointed.
That's because they keep trying to push AI into the foreground, not the background where it belongs
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No no, please give me those vast definitely not procedural generated landscapes of open world games - no even better give me the infinite world of Minecraft that is just procedurally generated and those wall and floor textures that some poor overworked artis generated by putting a noise filter on gray and brown squares.
Oh you can't imagine how much I love the dialogue choices that totally make sense.
And the always identical animations of every character I meet in my gamesBut I really despise this regurgitated stuff from an AI, especially the translations of languages that I don't understand. Or variated character models or some textures that I usually only notice if they were missing.
Raging about AI is a trend. It will go away like gamergate, shutting down reddit 3rd party apps and removing porn from Flickr.
Those who add value to their products with GenAI will prevail.So rage in harmony with other haters instead of improving by being constructive.
For the thousandth time: Translation is not a 1:1 formula, that can be easily automated by a machine.
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oh ffs, The Alters used it for placeholder assets for which no one would have hired a professional. It’s a rough machine translation instead of Lorem Ipsum.
Yeah the continued fake outrage from “”””leftists”””” over AI is really starting to get on my nerves. The tech exists, people just need to accept that it’s here and simply move on. It’s a tool like any other.
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Mmm just give me ladles of that easy quick slop mmm yes please just pour it down my gullet, all that regurgitated mashed-up machine bullshit mmmmmm
As opposed to the human made slop that permeated the industry? Just because a human made it doesn’t mean it was good for fucks sake. At least now we can make mediocrity at scale.
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Yeah the continued fake outrage from “”””leftists”””” over AI is really starting to get on my nerves. The tech exists, people just need to accept that it’s here and simply move on. It’s a tool like any other.
I want to distance myself from this oversimplification.
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Some video games have been trying to use generative AI for years now, and for the most part people simply have not been having it. Why would we? It's lazy, it's ugly, it's an ethical black hole and it's being driven by an executive class desperate to lay off even more workers. While earlier and more brazen attempts at employing the tech were obvious, lately it's becoming more common for studios to slide a little AI-generated content in without drawing attention to it.
Jurassic World Evolution 3 launched with some AI-generated character portraits, then got bullied into removing them. Clair Obscur, which will be a lot of people's game of the year, appeared to quietly launch with some AI-generated art then just as quietly patch it out. I was going to review the city-building grand strategy game Kaiserpunk until I saw they were using AI-generated images for their dialogue sections, after which I promptly uninstalled it.
The latest culprit is The Alters, which has found to have shipped not only with AI-generated placeholder text in-game, but also employed AI-generated translations in some of its side content as well. None of this was disclosed prior to the game's release; it was all discovered later, by players, and has prompted an explanation of sorts from the developers which tries to calm everyone down, but which has just made things worse, because if it took people discovering these specific instances to find that 11 Bit had used AI-generated content in the game's development, how do we know there's not more of it?
Complete overreaction, but I agree that commercial games should not be using GenAI art. If you're making money out of selling your game, then don't use something which abused to commons to do so. If you're making a FOSS game, I don't see a problem with it.
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Some video games have been trying to use generative AI for years now, and for the most part people simply have not been having it. Why would we? It's lazy, it's ugly, it's an ethical black hole and it's being driven by an executive class desperate to lay off even more workers. While earlier and more brazen attempts at employing the tech were obvious, lately it's becoming more common for studios to slide a little AI-generated content in without drawing attention to it.
Jurassic World Evolution 3 launched with some AI-generated character portraits, then got bullied into removing them. Clair Obscur, which will be a lot of people's game of the year, appeared to quietly launch with some AI-generated art then just as quietly patch it out. I was going to review the city-building grand strategy game Kaiserpunk until I saw they were using AI-generated images for their dialogue sections, after which I promptly uninstalled it.
The latest culprit is The Alters, which has found to have shipped not only with AI-generated placeholder text in-game, but also employed AI-generated translations in some of its side content as well. None of this was disclosed prior to the game's release; it was all discovered later, by players, and has prompted an explanation of sorts from the developers which tries to calm everyone down, but which has just made things worse, because if it took people discovering these specific instances to find that 11 Bit had used AI-generated content in the game's development, how do we know there's not more of it?
Gaming is the one place generative AI makes the most sense, imo.
Personally, I want to see the Holodeck from Star Trek. That entire concept is generative AI.
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Gaming is the one place generative AI makes the most sense, imo.
Personally, I want to see the Holodeck from Star Trek. That entire concept is generative AI.
In a world that artists don't need to make money to live this works but I feel we will never get there.
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In a world that artists don't need to make money to live this works but I feel we will never get there.
There already exists no shortage of ways for corporations to exploit artists.
Fight for what you're actually talking about: fight for better wages and unions for artists and creatives and fight for a better social safety net. Trying to pick a fight with a glorified screwdriver isn't going to solve the ails of capitalism.
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As opposed to the human made slop that permeated the industry? Just because a human made it doesn’t mean it was good for fucks sake. At least now we can make mediocrity at scale.
What did I say that makes you think I'm in favour of bad things that humans made? I'm anti bad things.
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Dude, just let AI fuck your wife too. It can probably do it better than you can.
especially the translations of languages that I don't understand.
God forbid we dignify those people with a personal touch. Yeah, just let google translate do it: a technology famous for giving really good translations.
Dude, just let AI fuck your wife too. It can probably do it better than you can.
Given your mom provided the training data it probably could. But that's not the point
God forbid we dignify those people with a personal touch
Nobody said that there will only be GenAI generated games. There will be generated stuff in games. It's not going away. You are allowed to hate that but it won't change the industry.
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Yeah the continued fake outrage from “”””leftists”””” over AI is really starting to get on my nerves. The tech exists, people just need to accept that it’s here and simply move on. It’s a tool like any other.
What do you think you're """"accomplishing"""" by overusing """"quotation"""" marks like this, other than making yourself look like a """"clown?""""
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Some video games have been trying to use generative AI for years now, and for the most part people simply have not been having it. Why would we? It's lazy, it's ugly, it's an ethical black hole and it's being driven by an executive class desperate to lay off even more workers. While earlier and more brazen attempts at employing the tech were obvious, lately it's becoming more common for studios to slide a little AI-generated content in without drawing attention to it.
Jurassic World Evolution 3 launched with some AI-generated character portraits, then got bullied into removing them. Clair Obscur, which will be a lot of people's game of the year, appeared to quietly launch with some AI-generated art then just as quietly patch it out. I was going to review the city-building grand strategy game Kaiserpunk until I saw they were using AI-generated images for their dialogue sections, after which I promptly uninstalled it.
The latest culprit is The Alters, which has found to have shipped not only with AI-generated placeholder text in-game, but also employed AI-generated translations in some of its side content as well. None of this was disclosed prior to the game's release; it was all discovered later, by players, and has prompted an explanation of sorts from the developers which tries to calm everyone down, but which has just made things worse, because if it took people discovering these specific instances to find that 11 Bit had used AI-generated content in the game's development, how do we know there's not more of it?
That article should've been titled "FEEL FUD WITH ME"
looser reactionist.
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In a world that artists don't need to make money to live this works but I feel we will never get there.
that sounds like an ethics problem, the solution to most of those is to get rid of ethics
