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    There's way too much gatekeeping in gaming. People don't seem to understand that everyone has different tastes, and it's all subjective. There is no objectively good game. For me it's Half Life 2, I don't like shooters, tried it but couldn't get into it. But to many it's one of the greatest games ever.

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    There are objectively good games. There are not objectively fun games.

    Half-Life 2 is objectively good, and if you say it's a bad game you're simply wrong. However if you say it's a game you do not enjoy and isn't fun for you, that's not wrong.

    A game can be both good and not enjoyable to you.

    Conversely, a game can also be objectively bad and yet fun for some people.

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      Man, I don't know what your angle is, I already agreed my interests are pretty retarded, so however you think you're gonna bully me it won't work man

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      Given a choice to stop being ableist or make yourself the victim you chose the latter. That says a lot about your priorities.

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        It's equally as bad when you discover you like something that has been around for a while and has lots of fans and you don't get accepted or realise you don't want to be part of the fans because of how shitty, toxic, dumb etc. they are.
        A relevant example for this is Assassin's creed for me. I never like any of the games until AC: Origins, even though I gave most of them a fair shake. AC: Origins is a 10/10 for me, I put in over 600h hours into that game, 100%'ed it and all its expansions/dlc. AC: Odyssey is good too, but I never got as into it, so a 8/10. Valhalla never looked good in any way so never even tried it. Started playing Shadows about a week ago and really enjoying it so far, not as good as Origins but mostly better than Odyssey.
        But damn do people not like when I mention this, like I'm not allowed to like it because I didn't like the earlier games. I have no issue with people liking them and not the ones I do, never said anything else.
        Music is a lot like this too. "Oh, you like their newer stuff? Fucking idiot, only the early stuff is good, I now see down on you as a person and hate every opinion you have".

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        When games have a perceived quality shift people will attack the newer fans because they see them as the reason why the company is allowed to "get away" with producing the worse thing. I don't know how you can avoid that and still have a community that holds the thing they love to a standard. Some communities just like to fight about which games better, Im not really sure what else there is to even talk about with assassins creed (i've only played 2 of the games so idk).

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          I keep getting people telling me they won't watch Andor because of the other slop and it makes me sad

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          thats me rn

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            Serial Experiments Lain. I managed to acquire a bootleg Japanese VHS of the show (sans subtitles) in '99 or '00 and fell in love. I bought the English dub as soon as I could find it. I was totally obsessed, even going as far as carrying a messenger bag like Lain had, and making a custom Windows XP theme based on Navi. I even bought a Palm Pocket to mimic the smartphones shown in the show.

            Lain shaped my passion for IT, and I feel it changed my life in profound ways.

            I'm confused by the sudden popularity. It went under the radar for so long. Now all of the merch goes for insane amounts of money.

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            I watched the first ep of that a week ago. Its a beautiful show, but to me its kind of ruined because instead of experiencing it as something new and experimental i experience it as an already established pop culture. I'll still watch it but i probably wont lainmaxx like most of the nerds who watched it in their formative years.

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            • dreaming_novaling@lemmy.zipD [email protected]

              I mean, was Roblox more about building in the past? To me, or at least when I played it back as a 10 yr old or so, Roblox was always about playing the diverse amount of games. If you wanted to build stuff, that was for Minecraft. I was always playing party games, anime clones, survival games, etc.

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              Yeah, I played a ton on a server called like ultimate build where it was an open plain with a bunch of blocks to build. You could make planes, cars, boats anything really just like lego.

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                I stayed up to date on ai and machine learning, including language models. I remember hearing that one learned math from language and wondering where things will go. I watched ai safety videos before they felt relevant. Then I heard Openai, which had a good rep at the time, is releasing their new model online, called ChatGPT. Having played with DungeonAI and NovelAI before I was gonna fiddle with this as well.

                Then headlines broke, it became a phenomenon. Even then I figured this would be this week's Thing before getting bored, as was common with these ai.

                Down the line I remembered hearing ChatGPT on a gas station ad for some travel app. That was when I realized this is permanent. People who aren't even online are likely hearing about this. Suddenly my niche hobby and hopeful dreams of the future became an actual enshittified crisis.

                I don't think I need to explain how everyone using language models now is just god awful for everyone. And the attention hasn't gotten us closer to answering long standing questions of ethics, economic change, what is intelligence or consciousness. We've just got a bunch of the lowest common denominator shouting their answers now.

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                  Not to that extent, but crypto. I think its an amazing and really interesting technology. But now it's tainted by scammers and when people hear the term, they get defensive because they are ready for you to scam them

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                  Ive learned a bit off a on about crypto, but never got “into it”. When I first started learning it looked like a really interesting concept with a lot of potential uses.

                  I can’t remember the details at this point, but when looking at bitcoin I remember seeing so many problems. There was the transaction price, speed, and complexity. There was the insanity of all the wasted energy to “mine” bitcoin. Most importantly, it didn’t make sense to me as a currency. Currency needs to be stable, easy to exchange, and easy to use to buy things. Bitcoin always seemed like a really cool prototype that needed a successor or major revisions.

                  Then the masses (and braindead hype bros and “visionary” corporate types) jumped on it and turned it into the shit show it is today. When people would get excited about it (“price is going up! Gotta buy now!”), it was clear they either didn’t really know what it was or were trying to hype it to get more money pumped into it. When friends or family brought it up, I’d point out that it didn’t really have any use except as speculation. I’d tell them they if they wanted to gamble, go for it, but they should realize that it doesn’t have intrinsic value (just like all the other currencies) and, as it stands, it’s a really shitty currency. Know that people aren’t buying it because it works well. People are buying it because the price is going up.

                  People have made a lot of money (or theoretical money if they’re still holding), but it still doesn’t seem like it actually gets used for anything but speculation. The $2+ trillion USD market cap for bitcoin makes my head spin. I’ve always thought that bitcoin was a dead end and would eventually be dethroned by something more viable, but here we still are.

                  I haven’t looked at cryptocurrencies in a while. Any notable progress in the last 5 or so years toward it being more than a money making gamble?

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                    Given a choice to stop being ableist or make yourself the victim you chose the latter. That says a lot about your priorities.

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                    In all seriousness, you're the one I assume to be equating people with varying ability to "retards," where I was just using the nomenclature that OP was using to describe the state of their interests once careless normies decide to adopt them. If you want to try to bully me, in addition to yourself repeatedly suggesting that people with different abilities are the real "retards" here, then you can get blocked from my YouTube channel.

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                      Star Wars

                      This happened to all the ols school Star Wars fans. Disney created the "idiot fans"

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                      Old school Star Wars fans harassed the actor who played jar jar to the point that he considered suicide...

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                        In all seriousness, you're the one I assume to be equating people with varying ability to "retards," where I was just using the nomenclature that OP was using to describe the state of their interests once careless normies decide to adopt them. If you want to try to bully me, in addition to yourself repeatedly suggesting that people with different abilities are the real "retards" here, then you can get blocked from my YouTube channel.

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                        Wow, I never thought about it that way. Its us who don't casually use ableist slurs who are the true ableist. You've really given me a lot to think about. All of it is incredibly stupid, but there's no denying that there's a lot of it.

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                          Minecraft. Started playing in 2011 and have played off and on every year since then. It's now really popular again, but I distinctly remember around 2017-18 it became suddenly uncool to play. When I would be in a VC with friends while playing it, they would ride my ass for it. The ~10 year nostalgia/hype cycle is coming full circle lol

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                          I got my copy back in May 2011. I think the only thing that pisses me off that's related to its popularity was it being sold and sold again, and so when I wanted to start playing with my children, I had to re-buy the game. I transferred from minecraft to Mojang, but didn't do Mojang to Microsoft, and so that was that.

                          Beyond that, I'm 37 and have two kids and I don't really know if it's popular and what the community is like, I just play with my kids, and they're scared of endermen, so it's fun.

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                            Dune before the movie came out

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                              My ex wife and I used to take a chess board everywhere, play in cafes, parks, restaurants, pubs. It was something to do when we had run out of stuff to say to each other. It was a conversation starter, people would come up and have a sticky, or ask us who's winning. Some people would occasionally ask if they can play. It was nice. Until Queens Gambit was all the rage. Then people seemed to assume we were just following that trend, and there was a noticeable increase in people saying "Queens Gambit eh?" And we stopped taking the board out so much.

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                                Dune before the movie came out

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                                The Lynch one, right?

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                                  TIL Mother Mother is popular now. Loved O My Heart back in the day

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                                  This was from the concert. Pretty packed

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                                    Yup. Was a huge fan of the EU books and lore. Wanted to give Disney a chance, so I saw the first few movies. It was like seeing your ex at the club but she'd gone through massive amounts of plastic surgery and they'd removed all the unique features that attracted you originally. Haven't watched anything Star Wars since the second movie in the new trilogy, literally 0 desire to see the conclusion or any new Star wars content.

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                                    Yea, Disney swore off all of the EU books stating they had no place in Star Wars. Then they started stealing portions of the EU books and basically making bad fanatic versions of them.

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                                      thats me rn

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                                      Do watch Andor. It’s not just good Star Wars, it's ‘good TV’ in general. And I say that as someone who hates modern Star Wars with a passion. Andor’s excellent.

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                                        Technically that includes Brotherhood of Steel, careful there that game is still actively worse than anything Bethesda has made.

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                                        Eh, I remember enjoying it, though never played it again so 🤷 possibly nostalgia. It was just not an open world or rpg.

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                                          Eh, I remember enjoying it, though never played it again so 🤷 possibly nostalgia. It was just not an open world or rpg.

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                                          Oh wait, I was thinking of fallout tactics. BOS was like wasteland skinned diablo right? That is, not turn based so not in my original grumpy old man comment.

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