PirateSoftware Leaves OffBrand Games as Stop Killing Games Reaches Goal
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This is why I hate this community right here. I answered the person's question and gave him what pirates view point was while calling out these gaming corporations and explained what they will probably do if a bill like this passes and your take away is I am "felationing" (not a word) game companies.
Just droves of window lickers like you infest this space and any nuanced conversations get lost.
"I see what he's worried about" they mumble around a mouthful of profit oriented testicles.
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Also, “dot” with a hard T is like super common in programming naming. It’s a pretty reasonable mistake to make.
And the mascot is a robot, it makes sense to assume it rhymes.
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Ubuntu.
Oo boon too?
Oo bun too?
Pretty sure the correct pronunciation is the first, but a lot of people say it as the second.
... lets just name the next big FOSS thing 'Uranus' and watch everyone disagree about how to pronounce that, very loudly.
I use openSUSE, and they made a music video and everything to teach people to pronounce it yet people still get it wrong. Such is life I guess.
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Exactly, seems competent. But only seems, he's a narcissistic nepobaby who just can't admit he's in the wrong be it in video games or real life.
I just can't understand why anyone would follow a piece of shit like him
Are his parents rich?
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"I see what he's worried about" they mumble around a mouthful of profit oriented testicles.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Also without stating any actual concerns while fighting their gag reflexes.
Edit: Also the children yearn for the mines, they say while telling people not to be concerned about non corporate interests. After all the companies interests are basicly our own.....
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He pretended like this would force studios to publish sourcecode and that they have to give up on drm. I am not shure if he or someone else said this but someone also pretendet like new laws would somehow retroactivly apply to all games and now sstudios would have to give up server code that propably has thrid party software in it that they dont have the right license to just release it.( this is also a point i read alot from comments everywwhere and its stupid.) First, anny new law will take a ton of time untill it iss written then passed and then goes into effect. If this law passes studios will know way in advanced that upcoming releases in the eu would be under this new law and therefore can take this into account when builsing their infrastructure for online play/drm like in case of the crew.
Also anyone who is active in piracy forums where devs work on stuffk ows that they dont need aourcecode to get it running. People will chow through assembly if they want to make a game work, some decompiled lego island over the course of a year to preserve it.
Yeap, and also that this will be the end of multiplayer games (bullshit in the extreme)
The irony of a guy called pirate software pushing for DRM on its own is, wild.
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You mean "lets have people say whatever they want without any consequences or repercussions, no matter how wrong or hurtful they are"?
Honestly I think Pirate Software was 90 percent in the wrong. He misunderstood the thrust of the Stop Killing Games movement and took his discourse too far.
I think it's a little gross how much we've chosen to pile on as a community.
In the real world we have in front of us some of the ideas put forth by Stop Killing Games will actually be hard for companies to implement. I don't feel bad for them nor do I support the murder of games. It's just not a simple prospect. -
I don't like pirate software like any other guy, but I want to put credit where credit is due.
He wasn't ranting about Godot being woke last year. He was actually actively defending it from all the bigots. One of the very few YouTubers or streamers, I saw.
You have probably mistaken him with Asmongold.
He has long hair too, and he is right wing nutjob pos.Oh shoot, wasn't Asmongold censored out of the new bbno$ music video? There was some text at the start that said "I'm sorry, I didn't know about redacted's shitty views" and one of the people has a raptor image digitally inserted over his face for the whole video.
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welcome to the internet
Yeah, this is the sucky part about the modern internet. It used to be that the internet was a place for discussion and we've twisted it to a place to enforce conformity.
I don't know anything about this guy, so maybe there's a more established pattern here, but ideally we don't jump down someone's throat when they do one or two unpopular things, but instead wait for a pattern to emerge before getting out the pitchforks. But everyone needs to be first, because the first one gets the eyeballs and there's not much downside to ruining someone's reputation unnecessarily.
It's stupid and I hate it.
I think I'm just tired of being handed a pitchfork whenever I browse YouTube or read about Stop Killing Games.
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your takeaway from individual people being unhappy after everything that has come to light about an individual popular person is missing the actual situation/thing that is happening right in front of you? quite a bit more went on than "differing opinion" and even then people are luckily allowed to be upset and it is even easy to understand when it is an influential person, welcome to the internet.
My take way is a subset of people are (justifiably) unhappy with Pirate Software. He acted like a dick and someone in his position should have better articulated his arguments and been more open to dialogue.
It's also a little gross how many people are trying to pay their bills by stoking rage about this rather than moving the issue forward. And yes, I do understand that the rage is probably why this movement got past the goal posts.
I still think we need to self reflect as a community.
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Can you or someone share those slides, becuase I'm not seeing that either. I looked at the English language initiative text on the website on my lunch break and did not see them.
I have the timestamped clip if that works.
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I think I'm just tired of being handed a pitchfork whenever I browse YouTube or read about Stop Killing Games.
Yeah, that's why I generally avoid the more popular channels. I just don't care about internet drama and just want to watch some decent content.
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I don't understand why he's getting flamed so hard. I get that it's an unpopular take, but the reaction is way overboard. Why is the community like this?
Unpopular take is a bit of an understatement. He called the entire movement shit and trashtalked it instead of just disagreeing. He also, after all the responses, doubled down and said he hopes "the movement gets want it wants, but not what it needs."
It's also not really a one off situation from PirateSoftware
This just served as a way for others to shed light on how scummy he is as a person in general.
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Honestly I think Pirate Software was 90 percent in the wrong. He misunderstood the thrust of the Stop Killing Games movement and took his discourse too far.
I think it's a little gross how much we've chosen to pile on as a community.
In the real world we have in front of us some of the ideas put forth by Stop Killing Games will actually be hard for companies to implement. I don't feel bad for them nor do I support the murder of games. It's just not a simple prospect.I think it’s a little gross how much we’ve chosen to pile on as a community.
The man is still advocating (to this very day) against Stop Killing Games, why does he get a pass? Why should I give a flying fuck about companies that have been bleeding a hobby I enjoy for years. Why are people so FUCKING WILLING TO STAND UP IN DEFENCE OF THE INDEFENSIBLE!
Sorry that last one is not the games industry only. But really why do people think its gross to call someone on their bullshit, but not gross to play defence for a multinational company?
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Unpopular take is a bit of an understatement. He called the entire movement shit and trashtalked it instead of just disagreeing. He also, after all the responses, doubled down and said he hopes "the movement gets want it wants, but not what it needs."
It's also not really a one off situation from PirateSoftware
This just served as a way for others to shed light on how scummy he is as a person in general.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Is there some kind of summary I can read? I don't follow him and only read a couple articles about the situation and it didn't seem all that bad. But maybe it was.
The one video I half watched was him defending Godot from people overexaggerating, so I don't see evidence of him being a scummy person in general.
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Also without stating any actual concerns while fighting their gag reflexes.
Edit: Also the children yearn for the mines, they say while telling people not to be concerned about non corporate interests. After all the companies interests are basicly our own.....
wrote last edited by [email protected]These are kinda wild takes. The gaming industry for indie companies is wild and expansive in a way I dont remember 20 years ago. Was I just naive? Am I naive now, and the guy who made a game on his own and uploaded it to steam was really just part of a large shell company?
I mean you're comparing these to the multinational coorporations that are ruining our environment, and healthcare (in the US). I dont feel like they're the same?
Maybe there needs to be tweaks so that the extra burdens don't inhibit small companies, but do the big ones. Maybe thats already in it, but its hard for me to take it seriously when you're comparing customer's desire for a good product with a child working in a mine.
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These are kinda wild takes. The gaming industry for indie companies is wild and expansive in a way I dont remember 20 years ago. Was I just naive? Am I naive now, and the guy who made a game on his own and uploaded it to steam was really just part of a large shell company?
I mean you're comparing these to the multinational coorporations that are ruining our environment, and healthcare (in the US). I dont feel like they're the same?
Maybe there needs to be tweaks so that the extra burdens don't inhibit small companies, but do the big ones. Maybe thats already in it, but its hard for me to take it seriously when you're comparing customer's desire for a good product with a child working in a mine.
Oh no, not putting this into a conspiracy. Not at all saying Thor is part of a large shell company.
The issue I am pointing to is how people (Thor included) defend and fight for those same multinational corporations. Hell even you by belittling one aspect of enshitification as lesser and not worth any attention is not doing any good.
Remember that we can do more then one thing at a time.
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Is there some kind of summary I can read? I don't follow him and only read a couple articles about the situation and it didn't seem all that bad. But maybe it was.
The one video I half watched was him defending Godot from people overexaggerating, so I don't see evidence of him being a scummy person in general.
Clip of his response:
https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware/clip/AssiduousTiredBoarRitzMitz-j0W1S8wiY9wGCtK7Video summary (timestamped at where he just trashtalks the movement for a solid minute)
https://youtu.be/R-RaQZPzhqU?t=494I don't know if there's any real good TLDR for this situation, here's the best I could find:
https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/pirate-software-stop-killing-games-controversy-timeline-eventsWoW controversy part
https://deltiasgaming.com/pirate-software-world-of-warcraft-drama-explained/There's a couple of other stuff like abuse allegations against him and other minor controversies like cheating in puzzle games. You can look those up if you want.
Also, for context, I do not condone any of the harm sent his way. I think what he's done is pretty scummy, but he and his team doesn't deserve being sent death threats and swatted
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Not in the slightest in this case. He very much did say that live and also still stands by what was said. The idea that you need someone to walk you though it to such a degree is odd and likely is because you are looking for a particular reality that you can agree with.
Like I could understand if we were talking about some event that had opposing claims here, but in this case the man in question does not even deny that was what he said. And if you want "the context" more then what was on that clip, the live stream was just that he was made aware of the campaign and this is how he reacted.
I doubt “the context” is that he started the stream, said "eat my entire ass" and stopped it. I bet there was hours of ramblings, like streamers do. And taking three sentences out of hours of ramblings is almost a definition of taking shit out of context.
The irony is, the video you linked is actually walking you to conclusion. Asking for context and sources is normal, listening to a video with quotes chopped together, and believing it with no more questioning is not. -
My point was that this rage mill has produced a lot of extreme negativity and this post, among others, and the comment thread within, is propogating it. And, as far as I can tell, it is over, at best, Thor taking the possibilities of this petition as written to the extreme to illustrate his concerns for its vagueness. And even if he is dead wrong, completely mistaken, and now knows it and won't admit to it, that does not, in anyway, justify the position he is put in now. I'm not say that you personally support him being swatted, or getting death threats, but not letting this shit go after a year of bullshit, letting it fester and boosting the rage, that's what leads to that shit. Just let it go.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The guy took something he didn't understand and shat all over it to his audience, when told he didn't understand it he did nothing at all to correct his mistake or even admit one had been made.
And as a result he's being clowned on. And people are finding more and more things that follow this line of behavior from him and clowning him on that too.
If you act like an asshole. You'll get treated like one. There's a reason no one was talking shit about Bob Ross.
