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‘If I switch it off, my girlfriend might think I’m cheating’: inside the rise of couples location sharing

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  • M [email protected]

    You realize you are also sharing your location with third parties or you havent figured that out yet? lmao

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    #277

    Yes, Apple already has my location. Using the location finder in iOS does not share data with advertisers. Also, I spend 99% of my time at my house. Wtf kind of secret shit do you think I’m up to?

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    • naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.comN [email protected]

      Yes we're teenagers. We've been married 15 years, ceremony was when we were three.

      Privacy is important, have you never kept a diary? Do you film therapy sessions lest your partner not know what you discussed? Shit with the door open? You don't need justification for wanting privacy, you need privacy so when you have a good reason for it nothing looks different.

      What if there’s an emergency?

      What if there is? Get help, that's an insane fear to live with. If I am unconscious there's nothing to do anyway, the hospital or whatever will find her details in my purse and call. What the fuck am I going to do, sit there watching the dot on the map and calling 000 if it stops moving? You are a lunatic, we have society to take care of us while we're out and about and emergency beacons if you're like camping beyond the black stump or sailing the Pacific.

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      No, I’m not worried about my wife reading “my diary” because I’m not a child.

      It honestly sounds like you need to work on your marriage and are projecting. Maybe try a couple’s therapist?

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        So you have suggestions?

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        It's not something I've used very much as I don't have much need for it, but I have used Locus a few times and I'm pretty comfortable with their privacy policy compared to the vast majority of other options.

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        • Y [email protected]

          No, I’m not worried about my wife reading “my diary” because I’m not a child.

          It honestly sounds like you need to work on your marriage and are projecting. Maybe try a couple’s therapist?

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          Very hinged lemmy comment.

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            if you believe the only reason your partner isn't cheating is that you'd find out via location share; what the fuck is the point?

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              So we have two camps.

              1. It's a tool to be used and it's a good thing to exists and I have it enabled forever

              2. Keep a gun pointed at it at all occasions and even if you use it, do so with heavy restrictions

              I trust my partner and my partner trusts me but the idea of stalking her via app is mindboggling and, honestly, disgusting to me. Like a dog on a leash, always observed, always controlled. That's some mind disease shit going on. Trust your partner dammit. Ya all have issues.

              On the other hand though being violently agaisnt it cuz "oh my god privacy" is also funny. The recipent is your partner. Setting it up for some specific use case shouldn't be a bother. It can be extremely usefull for example for grabbing shit in a mall - if you are not interested in going to the same shop, enable it, split, get what you need, join back, disable it.

              What I am getting at is - it's a tool, but an invasive and overly controlling one. Use it how you wish but do not perceive having it on constantly as normal. It literally sounds disgusting.

              Edit: For people talking about privacy - we're on lemmy. We all know how tracking works. An even if you have localisation off, your device will connect to local wifi and smart appliances to log your location anyway. So I am not really invested into discusing overall practice of having location on - only on sharing saud location.

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              • D [email protected]

                So we have two camps.

                1. It's a tool to be used and it's a good thing to exists and I have it enabled forever

                2. Keep a gun pointed at it at all occasions and even if you use it, do so with heavy restrictions

                I trust my partner and my partner trusts me but the idea of stalking her via app is mindboggling and, honestly, disgusting to me. Like a dog on a leash, always observed, always controlled. That's some mind disease shit going on. Trust your partner dammit. Ya all have issues.

                On the other hand though being violently agaisnt it cuz "oh my god privacy" is also funny. The recipent is your partner. Setting it up for some specific use case shouldn't be a bother. It can be extremely usefull for example for grabbing shit in a mall - if you are not interested in going to the same shop, enable it, split, get what you need, join back, disable it.

                What I am getting at is - it's a tool, but an invasive and overly controlling one. Use it how you wish but do not perceive having it on constantly as normal. It literally sounds disgusting.

                Edit: For people talking about privacy - we're on lemmy. We all know how tracking works. An even if you have localisation off, your device will connect to local wifi and smart appliances to log your location anyway. So I am not really invested into discusing overall practice of having location on - only on sharing saud location.

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                The recipent is your partner.

                And provider of whatever service you use to share your location. Being a bit paranoid about your privacy in this day and age is not just fearmongering and tinfoil-hats.

                It can be extremely usefull for example for grabbing shit in a mall

                Or communicate in advance that it'll take 30 minutes for you to find your shit and then meet up at a cafe, by car, at lobby or whatever. Live location doesn't add anything to that, assuming it even works reliably enough inside buildings.

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                • D [email protected]

                  So we have two camps.

                  1. It's a tool to be used and it's a good thing to exists and I have it enabled forever

                  2. Keep a gun pointed at it at all occasions and even if you use it, do so with heavy restrictions

                  I trust my partner and my partner trusts me but the idea of stalking her via app is mindboggling and, honestly, disgusting to me. Like a dog on a leash, always observed, always controlled. That's some mind disease shit going on. Trust your partner dammit. Ya all have issues.

                  On the other hand though being violently agaisnt it cuz "oh my god privacy" is also funny. The recipent is your partner. Setting it up for some specific use case shouldn't be a bother. It can be extremely usefull for example for grabbing shit in a mall - if you are not interested in going to the same shop, enable it, split, get what you need, join back, disable it.

                  What I am getting at is - it's a tool, but an invasive and overly controlling one. Use it how you wish but do not perceive having it on constantly as normal. It literally sounds disgusting.

                  Edit: For people talking about privacy - we're on lemmy. We all know how tracking works. An even if you have localisation off, your device will connect to local wifi and smart appliances to log your location anyway. So I am not really invested into discusing overall practice of having location on - only on sharing saud location.

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                  My wife and I have our location shared with each other 24/7. Furthermore, my sister also has mine and my wife has her sister's. It has nothing to do with trust and everything to do with safety. Perhaps the real trust is not assuming your partner will use your location to control you.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    You are still sharing it with google if you have an android phone lol

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                    And you don't think iPhones and Apple don't know your location?

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                    • saik0shinigami@lemmy.saik0.comS [email protected]

                      you are sharing your location with a greedy company [...] and then the highest bidder access this information

                      Pretty sure I read it.

                      You can do location sharing WITHOUT interacting with any "greedy company" or "highest bidder".

                      Then you state...

                      if you run nextcloud and that addon I don’t remember, or reitti, at home and use that, and you keep is somewhat safe*

                      and I confirm that you can do it in Nextcloud, and ALSO Home Assistant... as Home assistant is also likely to be something people are running.

                      I think you didn’t read my comment

                      I think that you think that everyone who ever comments to your post is always arguing against you.

                      Edit: missed a couple of words.

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                      and I confirm that you can do it in Nextcloud, and ALSO Home Assistant... as Home assistant is also likely to be something people are running.

                      I'm sorry, I misunderstood you then.

                      I think that you think that everyone who ever comments to your post is always arguing against you.

                      I don't think that I think that way. I was responding that because the way the way you said seemed to be more of intending to write new information, than a confirmation.

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                      • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                        (And hoping the location sharing doesnt leak to other applications).

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                        We switched to Fairphones running e/OS so we have pretty solid control of that. Im looking forward to postmarketOS being a bit more stable.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Seconded.

                          And having each other's location is really helpful. I'm nervous if my partner doesn't know where I am.

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                          Yeah my wife has MS and I worry when shes late that she is having trouble. And I go hiking in the bush so its good if she has my approximate location

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                          • L [email protected]

                            Privacy generally means the ability to control your personal information and how it's used, as well as your freedom from intrusion and observation.

                            If you knowingly opt in it’s not really a breach of privacy. They’re choosing to allow a 3rd party access to that information which doesn’t fit with your preferences but it’s not really a breach of privacy or trust.

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                            they have control over giving that information to the 3rd party, but they don't have any control after that, over how the information is used. with that in mind, do you think they have control over their information?

                            they are choosing to allow a 3rd party access to that information

                            that's right, allowing that 3rd party. but did they choose to share it with the business partners of that 3rd party too? are they aware of what is happening in the background? even if they didn't just register-accept-next-next-finish it, most people have no idea about it, because there's so little discourse about it.

                            like, when I registered to facebook many years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I was using their services a lot for years, blissfully unaware that facebook is a shit company. and what control did I have at the end? the illusion of deletion.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              Why would you want to share your location so third parties can have access to it?

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                              That's a fair point, it's also not the issue at hand 🤷‍♂️

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                              • moseschrute@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                                Me and my partner share locations. Never once have we done this. It's purely a logistical thing. 10x faster to check someone's location when you're supposed to meet them instead of testing them "wya".

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                                It's also really great when someone is driving to pick you up. You can see how far out they are, and be ready when they arrive.

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                                • H [email protected]

                                  For me, knowing my spouse’s location is just convenient for knowing ETA without bothering her. It’s not really about trust at all

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                                  I figure if my phone manufacturer and cell providers are tracking me all day, why not also my closest friends and family.

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                                    Immature crap like this makes me very grateful to be a grownup married to a grownup.

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                                      So we have two camps.

                                      1. It's a tool to be used and it's a good thing to exists and I have it enabled forever

                                      2. Keep a gun pointed at it at all occasions and even if you use it, do so with heavy restrictions

                                      I trust my partner and my partner trusts me but the idea of stalking her via app is mindboggling and, honestly, disgusting to me. Like a dog on a leash, always observed, always controlled. That's some mind disease shit going on. Trust your partner dammit. Ya all have issues.

                                      On the other hand though being violently agaisnt it cuz "oh my god privacy" is also funny. The recipent is your partner. Setting it up for some specific use case shouldn't be a bother. It can be extremely usefull for example for grabbing shit in a mall - if you are not interested in going to the same shop, enable it, split, get what you need, join back, disable it.

                                      What I am getting at is - it's a tool, but an invasive and overly controlling one. Use it how you wish but do not perceive having it on constantly as normal. It literally sounds disgusting.

                                      Edit: For people talking about privacy - we're on lemmy. We all know how tracking works. An even if you have localisation off, your device will connect to local wifi and smart appliances to log your location anyway. So I am not really invested into discusing overall practice of having location on - only on sharing saud location.

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                                      The specified recipient is your partner.

                                      But that data gets created, so it's vulnerable. Commercial aps on your phone, sketchy apps youve never heard of like facebook, google services, and potentially something from your carrier, plus the government in mosy cases, will have access, phone home, record it.

                                      Then it gets transmitted to your partner somebody('s code) does this. Even if it's e2ee, you need a program to do that, abd the general rule with phone apps is that your data is being sold.

                                      Then it gets to your partners phone, where it is again vulnerable to third parties their apps etc.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        My wife and I have our location shared with each other 24/7. Furthermore, my sister also has mine and my wife has her sister's. It has nothing to do with trust and everything to do with safety. Perhaps the real trust is not assuming your partner will use your location to control you.

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                                        For me, privacy is safety. The thing im most worried about is the government snatching me up in the night.

                                        Yay, threat profiles!

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          My partner and I used to use location sharing pretty much 100% of the time. We just felt better knowing we could find each other.

                                          But today, we do not, because the trust is shattered.

                                          Google just cannot be trusted with our locations.

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                                          We use a self hosted reitti instance instead now

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