Why Lucid's CEO Thinks 180-Mile EVs Are 'The Future'
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Oh sure, most of us are trapped in a regressive energy waste cycle, but the article’s statement is about optimizing a slightly less wasteful form of transport, and that range acknowledges the requirement that we stop all the excessive travel in order to progress.
FWIW I have a short range BEV but living rurally means keeping a second gas car around. The vast majority of our trips are well within range, though. Commute to town is only seven kilometres and range is only 130km. If we had lots of money and two EV’s I would still have one be short range.
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My 150 mile commute
Is that 150 miles each way, or is it 150 miles roundtrip?
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Cold weather performance has to improve a bit too. That 300km can easily become 200 or less in a Canadian prairie winter, which isn't enough to be competitive with ICE vehicles, and given the state of charging infrastructure.
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Don't forget that this article mentions that cars with shorter range will be more useful by 2030. There are still a few years to improve charging tech and infrastructure.
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Right, but having to stop to charge midway through a 2-300 km trip isn't that practical for most around here. That length of drive isn't uncommon and stopping would be a turnoff for people used to doing the whole trip with an ICE vehicle.
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50% of heat loss in winter? Do you live in the middle of Siberia?
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I had a few lucid dreams and they were cool but this seems like another attempt to take a cool word from us and change the meaning to sell a fucking product
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Close enough, I live in the mountains where it regularly gets down into the negative teens Fahrenheit in winter.
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Yeah, OK, then your point stands. In Germany the coldest winter nights we get are about -10 degrees Celsius, and at that temperature I get less than 20% range loss, but that's partly due to the lower speeds you naturally drive on slippery winter roads. In your conditions 50% range loss might actually be realistic since heat pumps drastically lose efficiency that far below freezing
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If we had lots of money and two EV’s I would still have one be short range.
I'm seeing a future where the EVs in our driveway play a much more important part of our home electricity storage. Depending on the scenario, two EVs with large-ish batteries may be more advantageous. I'll admit the stars would have to align for this, but its a possible future.
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Great. Mandate WFH and build public transit then. Until that's done, we need cars.
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If 180 miles were sufficient, ICE cars would have settled into a rough 180-mile range average.
They settled into 425.
