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Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

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  • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
    atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

    And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

    This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

    Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

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    • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

      Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

      And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

      This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

      Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

      @[email protected]

      m_f@discuss.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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      I don't think mutual aid can work well like that on the internet. Works great in person, works OK for GoFundMe-type stuff like "I had something happen to me that will take a lot of money to fix". Too easy to scam and grift for small stuff like this though, where for all you know they're just a very clever dog on the internet.

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      • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

        Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

        And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

        This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

        Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

        @[email protected]

        regineheidorn@gruene.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @atomicpoet @fediverse THX for putting this clearly on the table, I had this scepticism for some time already ...

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        • regineheidorn@gruene.socialR [email protected]

          @atomicpoet @fediverse THX for putting this clearly on the table, I had this scepticism for some time already ...

          atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @regineheidorn @fediverse Yeah, people I know boosted her messages—which implies they may have given her money. The thing is, that grifter’s success is going to attract other grifters if this problem isn’t addressed.
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          • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

            Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

            And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

            This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

            Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

            @[email protected]

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            That's not mutual aid, that's scam spam. Report it.

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            • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]
              @regineheidorn @fediverse Yeah, people I know boosted her messages—which implies they may have given her money. The thing is, that grifter’s success is going to attract other grifters if this problem isn’t addressed.
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              @atomicpoet @fediverse Yes. And we know this from the early e-mail days already ...

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              • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                @[email protected]

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                That's not mutual aid that's charity. Mutual aid is mutually beneficial to both parties.

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                • m_f@discuss.onlineM [email protected]

                  I don't think mutual aid can work well like that on the internet. Works great in person, works OK for GoFundMe-type stuff like "I had something happen to me that will take a lot of money to fix". Too easy to scam and grift for small stuff like this though, where for all you know they're just a very clever dog on the internet.

                  povoq@slrpnk.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Charity is not the same as mutual aid anyways, even though I have also seen "mutual aid" requests on the Fediverse that were clearly asking for charity.

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                  • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                    Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                    And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                    This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                    Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

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                    @atomicpoet @fediverse

                    Thankfully that would almost certainly be a scam in my country and many others.

                    I am a asthmatic. Well controlled by a thrice daily cocktail of medicines. All free at the point of need. Paid for by our taxes.

                    The true scandal is the countrues that make this plea possible.

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                    • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                      Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                      And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                      This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                      Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                      @[email protected]

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                      Yep.

                      I feel the fediverse should lean towards “overly aggressive” when combatting spam, before it takes root, even with all the negatives that brings.

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                      • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                        Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                        And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                        This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                        Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                        @[email protected]

                        punchshark@lemmy.caP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Who is seriously stupid enough to fall for this?

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                        • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                          Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                          And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                          This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                          Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                          @[email protected]

                          pugjesus@lemmy.worldP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          I was just offered 500$ to be someone's friend. Of course, I refused - my friendship is worth much more than that!

                          But it's... concerning that we've got this sudden spike in spam.

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                          • punchshark@lemmy.caP [email protected]

                            Who is seriously stupid enough to fall for this?

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                            My cat just died chewing through the power cable on my graphics card so I need a new 5090, please help brother

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                            • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                              Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                              And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                              This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                              Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                              @[email protected]

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                              Yep I've already gotten a couple messages like this with an image of a random lady attached:

                              Hi, I’m Nicole! I’m a proud Polish girl from Toronto (29 y/o)

                              I’m currently taking the pre-health sciences program at George Brown College hoping to get into the medical field someday!

                              You can add me on Friendica: [REDACTED]

                              and join my discord here: [REDACTED]

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                              • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                                Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                                And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                                This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                                Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                                @[email protected]

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                                I would just reply with a guide to shoplifting 😉

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                                • m_f@discuss.onlineM [email protected]

                                  I don't think mutual aid can work well like that on the internet. Works great in person, works OK for GoFundMe-type stuff like "I had something happen to me that will take a lot of money to fix". Too easy to scam and grift for small stuff like this though, where for all you know they're just a very clever dog on the internet.

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                                  I for one am not willing to feed a milk-bone addiction, no matter how good a boy he is.

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                                  • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                                    Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                                    And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                                    This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                                    Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                                    @[email protected]

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                                    I blocked MutualAid-related tags months ago because there is only so much begging and sob stories that a person can take.

                                    I feel sorry for people who have problems and situations so desperate that they feel the best way to fix them is asking random people on the internet for money, but I just don't know if I can trust them and I absolutely know I can't help everyone.

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                                    • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                                      Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                                      And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                                      This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                                      Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                                      @[email protected]

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                                      Don't boost it. If it violates your instance's rules (e.g. it's a scam), report it. Unfollow people that boost it. Mute/block the poster or their content.

                                      I don't might seeing it, and I don't think it is a problem (yet).

                                      Agree that caution is warranted for any request of funds, whatever the requestor wants to call it.

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                                      • atomicpoet@atomicpoet.orgA [email protected]

                                        Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

                                        And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

                                        This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

                                        Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

                                        @[email protected]

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                                        This is nothing, on hexbear there's a person pretending to be like half a dozen different Palestinians with different fraudulent GoFundMe. They cook up a new persona like every other week using pictures they scrape from the media and then run it through an AI filter.

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                                          Yep.

                                          I feel the fediverse should lean towards “overly aggressive” when combatting spam, before it takes root, even with all the negatives that brings.

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                                          I agree. E-mail is the original federated service. And 50 years later, e-mail spam remains a big problem. I hope Fedi projects can get spam mitigations on-par with email, before spammers start getting serious about this place.

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