Piefed has feeds now!
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The feed creator needs to know about the communities so they can type/paste the community address in, yeah. This feature takes the expert fediverse landscape knowledge contained in the heads of the terminally online and makes it available to more casual/new users.
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Ah its more complicated than I thought. We also have a similar or same feature on the roadmap, when I get to that it can federate with Piefed.
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To anyone not wanting to give on Patreon, there is also: https://liberapay.com/PieFed/
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So do I understand correctly that these are identical to Topics, except customizable without requiring backend changes?
Sweet!
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That's cool, i hope lemmy federates with it in the future
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Once a community is known to an instance it is available via the search feature. Thus this really doesn't improve discoverability at all assuming the person adding it to the feed is already using the instance.
What it however does is moving the conscious choice of looking for and joining a community to an opaque follow feed button that makes someone subscribe to a lot of communities they know nothing about other than that someone else thought they somehow fit to a single word tag (and it is worse than hashtags on Mastodon as it is not the person making the post that adds them, but a totally unrelated 3rd party).
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Opt-out on the other hand for public feeds specifically is something that I support. But then good luck having that supported on lemmy where almost all communities exist.
Lemmy already has a setting
community.hiddenso that communities dont show up on the All feed. But this is not easy to access at the moment. I can fix that. -
Exactly
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Oooooooh, love u.
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Yes having that option more easily accessible would be much apprechated.
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I appreciate your words of caution. Remember this feature is very new and will no doubt get a lot more finesse added in future. There's no point building some baroque all singing-all-dancing perfect thing unless we're sure people will use it and by releasing earlier we get valuable feedback which determines whether we continue building that feature at all, etc.
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I don’t want to block the users though, I just don’t want to be subject to their authority. Which means I can’t use their communities. Combining them into one big bag subverts my autonomy to do so.
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Just don't use public feeds and have your own private feeds split into topics you're interested in where you don't have communities you dislike included. You have all the autonomy you need. No one tells you to subscribe to that one specific feed that doesn't curate the communities in the way you dislike. Just use it to organise your own subscriptions to have them by topics or catered for different moods of the day.
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Does posting to a feed post to all the communities in it?
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Feed isn't a place you can post to. It just collects posts from different communities into one feed/stream.
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Im still confused on what your worry is? That people will reply to a post without reading the comments?
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For the federating its a new kind of AP actor. I'll be putting in a FEP for it in the near future, but its basically a "Group" that only cares about the "Following" collection.
You can see example json for the AP interactions here: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/docs/activitypub_examples/feeds
The AP interactions for a Feed are:
- Send a Follow request for a Feed
- Accept a Follow request (this is automatic for public feeds)
- Reject a Follow request (this is automatic for private feeds)
- Announce an Add of a Community to a Feed
- Announce a Remove of a Community from a Feed
- Send a Delete of a Feed to subscribers
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No, the problem is that people that have no relation to the community start commenting and getting into arguments.
Say for example a /c/anarchism gets added to a "politics" feed. And suddenly you have a bunch of people that have no clue (or even a pretty false idea) commenting on posts in the anarchism community because they think it is just another politics posts. Then others that are actual members of that community start getting into largely off-topic arguments with these commenters and when moderators step in you shortly after get complaints from people about being "censored for their totally valid opinion about politics" and so on.
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More like reply to posts without regard for its host community. In other words, context collapse where the community is the main context.
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Wouldnt each post still indicate what community its on though?
