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Why don't Americans plant trees and bushes of stuff that they can eat in their houses instead of having useless grass?

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    They're all golf players wannabe.

    And it's always greener than your neibours one

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      A lot of people are secretly cows and they actually eat that grass. Next time you say hello to someone and they respond “moo” you’ll know why.

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        I mean some of us hate grass so much we started a huge reddit community about it that made it's way too lemmy.

        https://slrpnk.net/c/nolawns

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          Most people have both. A lawn is good to play on.

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            We do, though? I have mulberries and gooseberries instead of decorative plants, along with various edible cabbages and herbs, and clover for bees.

            And that's not unusual for my neighborhood. We're always swapping for mint and zucchini and squash and eggs with our neighbors, and one time even maple syrup!

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              My landlord would get a fine from the city and it would be tacked on to my rent.

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                Plenty of people have these things called "gardens". You can grow food right in the ground with them. Fruit baring trees are also a thing people enjoy in thier yard.

                Is your entire property filled with bushes or something?

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                We do tomatoes, tons of peppers, and blackberries. Baby avocado and lime trees aren't fruiting yet. Someone ate our cucumber plants as soon as they sprouted.

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                  The answer is they were a wealthy European concept brought to the colonies as a status symbol. They are still associated with wealthier people which raises property values, so are enshrined in local ordinances and HOA rules.

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                    I've lived in 9 states and in every neighborhood many people have food producing plants. It's one of the healthiest hobbies you can have.

                    I love gardening and have a small orchard and have other food plants all around my house, but I still maintain a lawn because it gets my kids outside playing sports, it's a very multifunctional space, and because covering every square inch of my property in food bearing plants would be way more work and time than we have to give. In every home (except Arizona) I've kept at least some portion of the property as grass lawn.

                    Some people latch on to your idea but then a few years later end up with an unmaintained berry bramble of a yard full of invasive food plants that is totally unusable. Moderation and common sense in all things.

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                      I can imagine a few reasons.

                      I have a dog, she needs some running around space in our yard, so we make sure she has it.

                      Otherwise we do have a raspberry... Thicket? In the corner of our yard, and some smaller raised beds along the edges. Every year the local squirrels steal the veggies we plant, but not the raspberries, no matter what we do.

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                      Every year the local squirrels steal the veggies we plant

                      This has been my experience as well, along with raccoons decimating all but one season's attempt at a water garden.

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                        I know exactly what you mean, I lived in a small town in Eastern Europe and the streets are literally lined with fruit trees and everyone has a walnut tree in their yard, it’s literally free food. The cherries were the best.

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                          We do? Some ppl dont, we have sugarcane, oranges, lemons, eggplants, peppers, and I forget the rest, my dad/grandpa are more into gardening. Its just not realistic to do a lot, cheaper and a lot faster to go the grocery storec more variety, hoemgrown stuff is ususlly more of an addon.

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                            I’m tryin’, man. Fruit bearing plants take a lot of work compared to the manicured suburban steriscape. They’re not super easy to grow (depending on where you live), require pruning and fertilizer, soil amendment, and unfortunately pesticides or fencing if you don’t want insects or deer destroying your hard work.

                            That’s way more effort than most people want to expend. HOAs or even local ordinances may also restrict what can be grown.

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                              Every year the local squirrels steal the veggies we plant

                              This has been my experience as well, along with raccoons decimating all but one season's attempt at a water garden.

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                              We get them all. Deer, birds, chipmunks. The entire garden needs to be protected by hardware cloth. The chipmunks got through the original chicken wire we had. We had to enclose the top as they climbed over. Plus the small birds eat any berries. A constant battle to be able to harvest anything.

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                                Every year the local squirrels steal the veggies we plant

                                This has been my experience as well, along with raccoons decimating all but one season's attempt at a water garden.

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                                When I first started gardening I had this idealistic view of, "I will just grow a surplus, if the animals take some I will still have enough." Nope. They eat everything, to the ground. They can do it in one night. There are different pests that specialize in eating the seeds, the roots, the stems, the leaves, and the fruit. Deer will "sample" entire plants just to confirm they don't like them. Squirrels will take a single bite out of every tomato. Bears will push down an entire fruit tree just to get one fruit. Energy is scarce in nature and these organisms aren't fucking around.

                                Took me awhile to finally admit that barriers aren't just nice, they are required.

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                                  I’m tryin’, man. Fruit bearing plants take a lot of work compared to the manicured suburban steriscape. They’re not super easy to grow (depending on where you live), require pruning and fertilizer, soil amendment, and unfortunately pesticides or fencing if you don’t want insects or deer destroying your hard work.

                                  That’s way more effort than most people want to expend. HOAs or even local ordinances may also restrict what can be grown.

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                                  I don't know what your experience with gardening is, so I might be preaching to the choir here. But if it helps, No-Dig Gardening is a method that lets nature do a lot of the hard work for you.

                                  https://www.rhs.org.uk/soil-composts-mulches/no-dig-gardening

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                                    Can speak for everyone, but we do

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                                      I don't know what your experience with gardening is, so I might be preaching to the choir here. But if it helps, No-Dig Gardening is a method that lets nature do a lot of the hard work for you.

                                      https://www.rhs.org.uk/soil-composts-mulches/no-dig-gardening

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                                      I’m not super-experienced, but this is absolutely a viable method if you have somewhat decent soil to start with. Unfortunately where I live it’s a ton of clay, so getting the soil to a usable state absolutely requires digging. It’s just as much work to dig and amend vs build on top and import soil.

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                                        Because this is illegal in most of America. You would be fined and the city would probably send a crew out to rip it all up and give you the invoice if you defied it and left it that way.

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                                          Because this is illegal in most of America. You would be fined and the city would probably send a crew out to rip it all up and give you the invoice if you defied it and left it that way.

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                                          That’s a bit extreme? I think that you are correct that this may be the case in front yards depending on location, but backyards are usually fine for whatever barring some HOA BS or unusual local rules.

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