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  3. make it so that every user owns their data collected by this and its all encrypted with some key private to that user.

make it so that every user owns their data collected by this and its all encrypted with some key private to that user.

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    make it so that every user owns their data collected by this and its all encrypted with some key private to that user. Then have only t he user be able to share the data with others. Or rather dont collect it all to some central database but have everyone make their own for private use.

    But I dont think this is very good idea in the first place. What use is it to regular people to track others licenceplates? Who do you share the information with, the government? In usa they would just gleefully abuse it, in eu using it would just be horribly difficult for everyone involved due to legal issues and having private database about other peoples information isnt allowed or it requires somekind of registration i think, or was that only in finland.? In fact this might be outright illegal system in eu. Other places likely have superior database already.

    And in the end, the whole thing will likely just be taken from you by force if nothing else works. Maybe some corporation will buy you out or maybe government will just seize it. No way they would just ignore something like this if it has any use to them.

    So please be really careful how you do this so you dont end up making things worse for everyone by mistake. At least have some safeguards so you can destroy the whole thing if you need to so it cant be abused if anyone trys to take it from you.

    Its nice idea, being able to track stuff independently, but i think it might belongs to some different, more friendly world, that is not this awful place we have to live in.

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      make it so that every user owns their data collected by this and its all encrypted with some key private to that user. Then have only t he user be able to share the data with others. Or rather dont collect it all to some central database but have everyone make their own for private use.

      But I dont think this is very good idea in the first place. What use is it to regular people to track others licenceplates? Who do you share the information with, the government? In usa they would just gleefully abuse it, in eu using it would just be horribly difficult for everyone involved due to legal issues and having private database about other peoples information isnt allowed or it requires somekind of registration i think, or was that only in finland.? In fact this might be outright illegal system in eu. Other places likely have superior database already.

      And in the end, the whole thing will likely just be taken from you by force if nothing else works. Maybe some corporation will buy you out or maybe government will just seize it. No way they would just ignore something like this if it has any use to them.

      So please be really careful how you do this so you dont end up making things worse for everyone by mistake. At least have some safeguards so you can destroy the whole thing if you need to so it cant be abused if anyone trys to take it from you.

      Its nice idea, being able to track stuff independently, but i think it might belongs to some different, more friendly world, that is not this awful place we have to live in.

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      dont collect it all to some central database but have everyone make their own for private use.
      This is how it currently works, and it's why I think Predator is a better alternative (as far as privacy goes) to traditional ALPR services. Everything Predator records is stored locally unless explicitly configured by the user to do something differently.

      What use is it to regular people to track others licenceplates?
      To be clear using the word "track" is a bit generous here. An individual user won't have nearly enough data to have anything close to a comprehensive location history on any given vehicle. A Predator user might be able to say "I've passed this car 3 times in the past month" but not "This person leaves for work every day at 9am".

      Predator is designed primarily to make use of 'hot-lists' where only license plates in a specific list trigger alerts. For example, the US has a program called AMBER alerts, in which emergency alerts can be issued for missing children/kidnappings. These alerts often have license plates associated with them. A Predator user can add a plate from an AMBER alert to their hot-list, and then forget about it. Predator will silently scan license plates as they drive, and alert the driver if they find the vehicle. I think this is a way better alternative to government agencies covering an entire neighborhood in license plate cameras that feed everything to a centralized database.

      the whole thing will likely just be taken from you by force if nothing else works
      This seems unlikely to me. There are already established companies in the space who have zero issue with violating privacy (i.e. Flock ALPR and Axon). A malicious company or government entity is unlikely to willingly go after Predator, given that it goes out of its way to make mass surveillance difficult.

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        dont collect it all to some central database but have everyone make their own for private use.
        This is how it currently works, and it's why I think Predator is a better alternative (as far as privacy goes) to traditional ALPR services. Everything Predator records is stored locally unless explicitly configured by the user to do something differently.

        What use is it to regular people to track others licenceplates?
        To be clear using the word "track" is a bit generous here. An individual user won't have nearly enough data to have anything close to a comprehensive location history on any given vehicle. A Predator user might be able to say "I've passed this car 3 times in the past month" but not "This person leaves for work every day at 9am".

        Predator is designed primarily to make use of 'hot-lists' where only license plates in a specific list trigger alerts. For example, the US has a program called AMBER alerts, in which emergency alerts can be issued for missing children/kidnappings. These alerts often have license plates associated with them. A Predator user can add a plate from an AMBER alert to their hot-list, and then forget about it. Predator will silently scan license plates as they drive, and alert the driver if they find the vehicle. I think this is a way better alternative to government agencies covering an entire neighborhood in license plate cameras that feed everything to a centralized database.

        the whole thing will likely just be taken from you by force if nothing else works
        This seems unlikely to me. There are already established companies in the space who have zero issue with violating privacy (i.e. Flock ALPR and Axon). A malicious company or government entity is unlikely to willingly go after Predator, given that it goes out of its way to make mass surveillance difficult.

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        I hope it works out as you want

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