Android is now warning of Firefox sharing data
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Even if this isn't entirely true, you know Google wouldn't pass up the opportunity to reduce Firefox market share to scare everyone back to Chrome.
Lol if Google really wanted to kill FF they would just stop paying them half a billion a year.
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wait, mozilla has a location provider?
maybe there is open street map, idk what's the difference between a map and a location providerMy (probably incomplete) understanding is: phones have a GNSS chip (such as GPS, Galileo, or Glonass), but getting location from that takes a long time and a lot of battery. So they estimate location based on other information such as what cell tower they are connected to and the list of available wi-fi networks. This requires a database with all that info, which Google built through its Street View cars.
So the location provider is a service to which your phone sends all the info it has and which replies with an estimate of your location; which means it handles a lot of sensitive data.
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So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?
This might mean that we would have no true free location provider left.
Edit: just was thinking, what does this mean for Firefox forks that also use Mozilla's location service?
Fork it, split it off, share it.
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I don't use default firefox for this damn reason.. I hope that Mull Fork gets going soon.. I've been in refuge in IceRaven since that time..
Ironfox?
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the thing about degoogled OS is lack of SafetyNet support and it is important for banking apps.
FWIW, banking apps work fine on GrapheneOS.
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In addition to what others have said, it can be downloaded from the Accrescent app store:
Never heard of that, what's the benefit over F-Droid?
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FWIW, banking apps work fine on GrapheneOS.
if you mean this list that is quite concerning because each individual have difference banking preferences and it looks like it depends on the bank to support GrapheneOS directly But, I don't think they bother because low market share (https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
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Many Linux distributions will need to dig Firefox looks like . I use Fennec btw , and in desktop Libre wolf since a long time.
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if you mean this list that is quite concerning because each individual have difference banking preferences and it looks like it depends on the bank to support GrapheneOS directly But, I don't think they bother because low market share (https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps)
The bank doesn't need to manually support GrapheneOS, the app just needs to behave appropriately - which, as you can see from that list, the overwhelming majority of them do.
If my bank stops supporting it, then I will move banks. But I doubt it will ever really become an issue.
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Frankly speaking, calling out Google and Chrome, then moving to Firefox while Mozilla have been doing it's best Google impression for years now is not that great of a plan.
I wonder how long Firefox will be ok with all that, since Mozilla bought that advertisement business a while ago.
The main problem is that building a web browser is extremely difficult and everyone else uses Google's version of WebKit. So there's no alternatives: it's either Google or Mozilla. Forks don't count because if some functionality that end users need is deprecated, nobody will maintain it and it will just disappear once it's removed from the main codebase
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Mull is supposedly no longer being developed.
Good to know! I primarily use IronFox.
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The bank doesn't need to manually support GrapheneOS, the app just needs to behave appropriately - which, as you can see from that list, the overwhelming majority of them do.
If my bank stops supporting it, then I will move banks. But I doubt it will ever really become an issue.
many countries are not supported like South Africa, Uruguay, Paraguay, Latvia, Brunei etc. that is why degoogled OS support for banking apps are patchy and I don't think normies are bother to install it.
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That said I’m open to better alternatives. I’m working hard to protect myself.
I'm personally running on Librewolf, it strips out the Mozilla BS and gives you fairly strict default privacy settings. It's sad that the free and open web is skating on thin ice.
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Friendship ended with Firefox. Waterfox is my new best friend
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many countries are not supported like South Africa, Uruguay, Paraguay, Latvia, Brunei etc. that is why degoogled OS support for banking apps are patchy and I don't think normies are bother to install it.
you're misinterpreting that list, it is not exhaustive - it's a list of banking apps which someone has tried and updated the list. the lack of a specific country or bank on that list doesn't mean it doesn't work, it means nobody has tested it, or nobody has added it to the list, at least
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My (probably incomplete) understanding is: phones have a GNSS chip (such as GPS, Galileo, or Glonass), but getting location from that takes a long time and a lot of battery. So they estimate location based on other information such as what cell tower they are connected to and the list of available wi-fi networks. This requires a database with all that info, which Google built through its Street View cars.
So the location provider is a service to which your phone sends all the info it has and which replies with an estimate of your location; which means it handles a lot of sensitive data.
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God damn why’s the world so shit
Society empowers and encourages shitty people that only care about their own kind/tribe, is why.
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FWIW I'm not seeing this on the Play Store for Firefox 136.0.1 on my Pixel 8a, and I'm not seeing any warnings on Beta or Nightly either:
I don't see it from installs direct via Obtainium, either.
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Fanboys of Firefox: "DUHB DUHB USE FIREFOX CUZ IT NOT CHROME DUHB DUHB!"
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So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?
This might mean that we would have no true free location provider left.
Edit: just was thinking, what does this mean for Firefox forks that also use Mozilla's location service?
So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?
Nothing, because they dont sell location data, this just seems like a routine warning that pops up when ToS and Privacy policy changes, and since they have clarified their position on this matter, (not to mention the lack of alternative FOSS web engines). We really shouldn't let this bother us
Of course i might be wrong and it may come out that Mozilla has turned heel(lot of heel turning happening lately)
