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turning a raspberry pi 4B into a vpn router

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  • A [email protected]

    I think GL.inet has tiny ones you can use.

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    I checked GL.inet is not available where I live

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      I think most consumer routers let you flash firmware. I believe certain Asus ones do, but obviously just validate that before buying it. OpenWRT has a list of supported devices you can check.

      I just figured that if you're doing network stuff then you'd likely want to use something other than the ISP router as those track your activity more (this is a privacy community after all) and lock many features you may need.

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      I checked OpenWRT table of hardware and there were some Asus and Mikrotik models that are available where I live but I don't know which one to buy that sufficient hardware for running ovpn clients

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        You have the pi, give it a go.

        If it's inadequate then i'd recommend a used fanless thin-client type PC, such as a Wyse 5070, just make sure it comes with PSU and a few GB of RAM and SSD. And check reports of how much power it uses at idle.

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        Thanks I will try running Wireguard on pi4. I never considered tin-clients before. What kind of OS these have? Can they run VPN clients?

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          This may be helpful if you haven't found it yet. It has a full list of instructions to flash and configure openwrt on the rpi 4 with wireguard VPN. It says you can also do it with openvpn, but claim the speed was much slower.

          https://www.instructables.com/Highspeed-VPN-Router-With-Raspberry-Pi/

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          Thanks I haven't seen this guide before. It looks easy enough to follow

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          • orhtej2@eviltoast.orgO [email protected]

            I used RaspAP for the purpose lately, comes with VPN support built in

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            Thanks This looks like exactly what I need. Installation seems easy enough. How do I configure it afterwards?

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              I checked OpenWRT table of hardware and there were some Asus and Mikrotik models that are available where I live but I don't know which one to buy that sufficient hardware for running ovpn clients

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              Does it need to be openwrt? What about tomato or asus-merlin? I think any of those should work, no?

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                Does it need to be openwrt? What about tomato or asus-merlin? I think any of those should work, no?

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                What are these and how does it change anything?

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                  What are these and how does it change anything?

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                  They're other popular router firmwares. What do you mean how does that change anything? I'm suggesting them because they may have a wider list of compatible models.

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                    They're other popular router firmwares. What do you mean how does that change anything? I'm suggesting them because they may have a wider list of compatible models.

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                    OK I'll look into them thanks

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                      Thanks I will try running Wireguard on pi4. I never considered tin-clients before. What kind of OS these have? Can they run VPN clients?

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                      Usually they're normal x86 PCs with nothing unusual about them so just your Linux/BSD distro of choice.
                      You can look up the processor model to see what crypto acceleration it can do, or see if there's any wireguard benchmarks available.

                      Some have interesting processors like PowerPC, or other strange hardware, but avoid them unless interesting is what you're after.

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                        I checked OpenWRT table of hardware and there were some Asus and Mikrotik models that are available where I live but I don't know which one to buy that sufficient hardware for running ovpn clients

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                        Mikrotik wont need openwrt unless you are dead set on having an open source OS on your device.

                        Mikrotik supports all sorts of VPN connections, both client, server, and site to site. You could even get creative and have it for certain services or IP addresses.

                        If you get one of the more modern devices it will support a pretty chunky VPN as well, mine can get over 600mbps without much hassle.

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                          Mikrotik wont need openwrt unless you are dead set on having an open source OS on your device.

                          Mikrotik supports all sorts of VPN connections, both client, server, and site to site. You could even get creative and have it for certain services or IP addresses.

                          If you get one of the more modern devices it will support a pretty chunky VPN as well, mine can get over 600mbps without much hassle.

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                          Thanks. I know routerOS is pretty capable but I know it's not noob friendly at all that's why I want to flash OpenWRT on it. I'm not sure which one to buy, I found RB750GRE hex model for a good price and it's supported by OpenWrt too but I'm not sure it can handle openvpn or not

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                            Usually they're normal x86 PCs with nothing unusual about them so just your Linux/BSD distro of choice.
                            You can look up the processor model to see what crypto acceleration it can do, or see if there's any wireguard benchmarks available.

                            Some have interesting processors like PowerPC, or other strange hardware, but avoid them unless interesting is what you're after.

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                            Sounds interesting I'm looking for a good mikrotik router right now. Going to look for these too thanks

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                              Just install Raspbian and PiVPN and forward the right ports dude; Less complicated

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                              I miss not being a CGNAT user.

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                                Thanks. I know routerOS is pretty capable but I know it's not noob friendly at all that's why I want to flash OpenWRT on it. I'm not sure which one to buy, I found RB750GRE hex model for a good price and it's supported by OpenWrt too but I'm not sure it can handle openvpn or not

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                                RB750GRE

                                They should all be able to run a VPN, its just the speed you'll get through it that will vary. That particular model is pretty old now I would not get that unless your budget is limited. The refreshed version of that is the E50UG, which is a lot more powerful, but its still a budget device. I have no idea when openwrt will be coming for the refreshed hex, but it should not be that long as other arm devices from mikrotik are supported.

                                It requires a bit of work to setup routeros but the guides for the common tasks are easy enough to follow. Its only if you want to do something outside of the guides or miss a step that it becomes a PITA if you aren't familiar with networking.

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                                  Hi guys as title suggests I have a pi 4b 4gb and basically I want to connect it to my isp provided router (wired connection via a lan cable) and run an openvpn config on it and then connect it to an access point that i already have (this one is wired too via a usb to RJ45 adapter and lan cable). I know that I need to flash openwrt image on an sdcard and install it on pi4 but I don't know how to configure openwrt after that and honestly the guides on the forums and internet are a little confusing (I'm not that tech savy) also I read that not all usb to RJ45 adapters work with openwrt on pi4 but I don't know which one to buy. can anyone show me a fool proof guide or tell me what I need to do?

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                                  It sounds like a fun tinker project, but I don’t think the hardware will perform as well as you hope.

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                                    It sounds like a fun tinker project, but I don’t think the hardware will perform as well as you hope.

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                                    Yeah like know open-vpn not gonna run well on it but wireguard is ok

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                                      RB750GRE

                                      They should all be able to run a VPN, its just the speed you'll get through it that will vary. That particular model is pretty old now I would not get that unless your budget is limited. The refreshed version of that is the E50UG, which is a lot more powerful, but its still a budget device. I have no idea when openwrt will be coming for the refreshed hex, but it should not be that long as other arm devices from mikrotik are supported.

                                      It requires a bit of work to setup routeros but the guides for the common tasks are easy enough to follow. Its only if you want to do something outside of the guides or miss a step that it becomes a PITA if you aren't familiar with networking.

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                                      Yeah I know open-vpn speeds are not gonna be pretty. I'll try wireguard or AnyConnect configs on it. about the device yeah it's a few years old but I can't find new version here. I guess that's what you expect when living in a third world country

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                                        Yeah I know open-vpn speeds are not gonna be pretty. I'll try wireguard or AnyConnect configs on it. about the device yeah it's a few years old but I can't find new version here. I guess that's what you expect when living in a third world country

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                                        If you can wait I would, the OG hex is pretty damn slow. I have one as a backup router and even then I wouldn't want to use it long term.

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                                          If you can wait I would, the OG hex is pretty damn slow. I have one as a backup router and even then I wouldn't want to use it long term.

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                                          I bought second hand Google mesh solution that is supported by OpenWRT latest release

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