What is your faith/religion?
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
I am am ordained dudeist priest.
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
Grew up in a very religious home, in a very religious country (orthodox christian). I don't think I ever truly "believed", but I didn't want to upset my family, so I got married in church and baptized my kids. I am an atheist, and don't practice any religion now.
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
I'm an atheist. I grew up super religious and had a falling out with my church due to their "if someone belives different than our denomination they are going to hell" mindset. After that I found out that most other denominations are like that except for mormons but they are worse in other ways. Then I did more and more research that sort of caused what belief I had left to fall apart and now its kind of like Santa Claus, once you figure out its your parents putting presents under the tree theres no believing in Santa anymore
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
It's complicated but I used to be essentially atheist but now believe that there is something one might as well call "God" after studying philosophy. Essentially everything has a cause and something must be at the end of that chain, and we might as well call that "God." I also practice Christianity because I feel that it is good to have the community and structure that a religion can provide but I don't think that "God" necessarily exists in the way Christianity typically presents it.
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I once read about an african creed that states the original creator of reality created it because it found something existing was better than only void - in the sense of absolute nothing - existing, and thus set what we perceived as reality into building itself and let it to its own devise, to never again interfere or meddle with it, to then disappear.
It's a convoluted way to state: deal with your own mess; I just set the stage, you write and act your own play.
It's a good way to deny people of the easy cop out.
It was wrong then - nothing existing is far preferable to this world with all its suffering
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
Atheist. I was raised in various flavors of southern, whites protestant churches. Mostly the so-called charismatic, non-denominational, types, but also mainstream Southern Baptists, Presbyterians, etc, but not excluding some of the weirder cultish strains.
I left because I began to realize just how fucked in the head they raised me. I couldn't relate to regular people very well at all, and couldn't trust the judgement of religious people at any level. I got out and got the help I needed. I only wish I had done it sooner.
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I've kind of always liked the idea of Buddhism, but I've never really been able to grapple with it in a way that made sense (in a gut-feel sort of way) to me. I guess living somewhere that has a sizeable Buddhist population could make the difference.
What makes you feel that way?
I think there are many very different ways to approach experiencing it. If my first experience was at a temple in my local area I would very much be turned away….
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I once read about an african creed that states the original creator of reality created it because it found something existing was better than only void - in the sense of absolute nothing - existing, and thus set what we perceived as reality into building itself and let it to its own devise, to never again interfere or meddle with it, to then disappear.
It's a convoluted way to state: deal with your own mess; I just set the stage, you write and act your own play.
It's a good way to deny people of the easy cop out.
Imagine you intentionally become pregnant, give birth to a child, and then throw them in a dumpster. That's the god you described.
Except multiply that by billions of lives.
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It was wrong then - nothing existing is far preferable to this world with all its suffering
Tell me you are a broken human being without saying it.
I'm honestly sad for knowing you take life to such regard but there is more to reality and life than our own small sliver of experience and understanding.
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
I wasn't really raised with religion, but most of my family is Christian. I considered myself atheist as a young adult. But after many spiritual experiences, I believe in the unexplainable, but I'm not a fan of organized religion or cults.
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Imagine you intentionally become pregnant, give birth to a child, and then throw them in a dumpster. That's the god you described.
Except multiply that by billions of lives.
If such happens it is entirely on the responsability and choice of who did. No cop out, no resorting to a scripture to excuse actions, no easy forgiveness.
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
Quaker curious
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If such happens it is entirely on the responsability and choice of who did. No cop out, no resorting to a scripture to excuse actions, no easy forgiveness.
God is the one throwing the baby in a dumpster.
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God is the one throwing the baby in a dumpster.
You got my atention. Explain your point of view, please.
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You got my atention. Explain your point of view, please.
Who is responsible for birth defects? For natural disaster? For sickness? These things aren't choices and we aren't responsible for them, they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.
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and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today
Subgenius.
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It's complicated but I used to be essentially atheist but now believe that there is something one might as well call "God" after studying philosophy. Essentially everything has a cause and something must be at the end of that chain, and we might as well call that "God." I also practice Christianity because I feel that it is good to have the community and structure that a religion can provide but I don't think that "God" necessarily exists in the way Christianity typically presents it.
Upvoting you because as an atheist I think its stupid that others are downvoting just because someone says they lean towards christianity
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Who is responsible for birth defects? For natural disaster? For sickness? These things aren't choices and we aren't responsible for them, they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.
Who is responsible for birth defects?
Biology, genetics and environmental causes. And poor judgment from the parents. So, it depends.
For natural disaster?
I guess... physics, primordially? Followed by stuborness, shortsightness and stupidity of humans?
For sickness?
Virus, bacteria, exposure, malnourishment, and others?
These things aren't choices [...]
A good part is outside our capability to act upon, I will gladly grant you that. But there are parts where we can in fact influence the outcome.
[...] and we aren't responsible for them, [...]
The moment any individual realizes something shoul not be in such a way, that individual can take responsibility to avoid or mitigate it.
[...] they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.
At best, reality is indeferent to what happens to an individual, a species, a planet, a star system or even a galaxy.
We have been setting our course in reality from the moment we achieved sentience and consciousness. We find things cruel, unfair, whatever, because they do not favour us.
We're owed nothing for existing. We take a debt towards each other in helping exist in such reality.There are no gods nor higher powers to shift blame here. We're here, now, and we have to deal with it. We can choose to try to make this world better for others or allow it to follow its own devises or even actively make it worse.
Individual agency. The stage is set: write and enact your own play.
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Who is responsible for birth defects?
Biology, genetics and environmental causes. And poor judgment from the parents. So, it depends.
For natural disaster?
I guess... physics, primordially? Followed by stuborness, shortsightness and stupidity of humans?
For sickness?
Virus, bacteria, exposure, malnourishment, and others?
These things aren't choices [...]
A good part is outside our capability to act upon, I will gladly grant you that. But there are parts where we can in fact influence the outcome.
[...] and we aren't responsible for them, [...]
The moment any individual realizes something shoul not be in such a way, that individual can take responsibility to avoid or mitigate it.
[...] they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.
At best, reality is indeferent to what happens to an individual, a species, a planet, a star system or even a galaxy.
We have been setting our course in reality from the moment we achieved sentience and consciousness. We find things cruel, unfair, whatever, because they do not favour us.
We're owed nothing for existing. We take a debt towards each other in helping exist in such reality.There are no gods nor higher powers to shift blame here. We're here, now, and we have to deal with it. We can choose to try to make this world better for others or allow it to follow its own devises or even actively make it worse.
Individual agency. The stage is set: write and enact your own play.
Biology, genetics and environmental causes.
And... who made those?
I guess… physics, primordially?
And who made that!?
We’re owed nothing for existing.
We are, actually. We didn't ask to exist. It was forced onto us by a cruel god that thought it would be neat to make humans.
If we think back to the dumpster baby, god created a child and threw them in a dumpster. For fun. It doesn't get to wash its hands and say "I don't owe them anything, it's up to them to survive." It's still responsible for creation and it is derelict in its duty.