Pope Francis has died

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Why is this pinned? This person was the CEO of a cult persuading people ghosts are real and manipulating them to give the cult money. Thanks god he's dead.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Don't be sad, he was as just bad as any of his colleagues.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/world/europe/pope-francis-homophobic-slur.html

[letraset@feddit.dk]

Should've worn a suite to that JD Vance meeting.

[theoctonaut@mander.xyz]

I have terrible news for you if you think using a homophobic slur is as bad as anything the previous popes and cardinals have been doing.

[eyekaytee@aussie.zone]

Francis was known as a liberal reformer, making headlines across the globe by permitting the blessing of same-sex couples and promoting global action on climate change.

Francis worked as a janitor and a chemical technician in the food-processing industry before entering the seminary.

He was outspoken about clergy abuse and called on the Catholic Church to "act decisively" against paedophile priests just months after his 2013 appointment.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

The homophobic slurs should also be a reminder that the catholic church is a homophobic cult.

[wildfire0straggler3@lemm.ee]

"Francis appointed nearly 80% of the cardinal electors who will choose the next pope, increasing the possibility that his successor will continue his progressive policies, despite the strong pushback from traditionalists."

https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-francis-has-died-vatican-says-video-statement-2025-04-21/

[wanpieserino@lemm.ee]

It's just a religion, we strip it of any power if they misbehave.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Francis was known as a liberal reformer, making headlines across the globe by permitting the blessing of same-sex couples and promoting global action on climate change.

He was also known as the ceo of a homophobic and misogynist cult and for strolling around italy in a private helicopter.

He was outspoken about clergy abuse and called on the Catholic Church to “act decisively” against paedophile priests just months after his 2013 appointment.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/19/pope-francis-victims-church-sexual-abuse-slander-chile

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

This was tbe same man that said being homosexual isn't a crime and doesn't merit persecution for it, albeit by the catholic creed being a sin.

An insult is only as long someone allows it to be.

Downvote away.

[yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Cultism is such a potent tendency of the human animal that new cults form spontaneously in the absence of established mythologies (or despite them). Fascism is a cult phenomenon, for instance, and the people vulnerable to such belief systems are unerringly broken in the same way that religious people are broken. It’s like someone scooped out the part of their brains responsible for maintaining epistemic norms and replaced it with oatmeal.

[eyekaytee@aussie.zone]

“As if I could have taken a selfie or a photo while Karadima abused me and others and Juan Barros stood by watching it all,” tweeted Barros’s most vocal accuser, Juan Carlos Cruz. “These people are truly crazy, and the pontiff talks about atonement to the victims. Nothing has changed, and his plea for forgiveness is empty.”

Wasn't this then 6 months later:

Pope Francis begins purge at Chilean church over sex abuse scandal

Francis realized he had misjudged the Chilean situation after meeting with Cruz and reading the 2,300-page report compiled by two leading Vatican investigators about the depth of Chile’s scandal, which has devastated the credibility of the church in a once overwhelmingly Roman Catholic country in the pope’s native Latin America.

“A new day has begun in Chile’s Catholic Church!” tweeted Juan Carlos Cruz, the abuse survivor who denounced Barros for years and pressed for the Vatican to take action.

“I’m thrilled for all those who have fought to see this day,” he said. “The band of delinquent bishops … begins to disintegrate today.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/pope-francis-begins-purge-at-chilean-church-over-sex-abuse-scandal
https://apnews.com/article/33b208ef4bc84576a503b059629607db

Sounds like you could maybe... forgive him... for making a mistake while attempting to cleanup the worst mess in modern catholic history?

But I'm not a catholic or religious at all

[scranulum@lemm.ee]

There's a time and place to be a euphoric neckbeard. This is neither.

[eyekaytee@aussie.zone]

He did get a lot of things right:

Pope Francis says Trump 'is not a Christian,' Trump responds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnv6tIRW86A

[index@sh.itjust.works]

The cult this guy is the internally appointed CEO of, does not spare people guilty of homosexuality even after their dead: they are to be damned for the rest of the eternity.

A pinned post where people are praising him to me looks like the right time and place to remind people about the shady shit this guy was involved in.

[smeenz@lemmy.nz]

If politics is anything to take a pattern from, things will get slightly better, but those moments of hope are followed by gigantic steps backwards.

[louslash@sh.itjust.works]

I am surpringly annoyed about Americans somehow finding a way to make this about themselves

And turning it into politics, because there is no otger way to talk about things

Sure, discussing politics is important to some degree, but it isn't the most important thing in our lifes

One of the most important persons in the world (atleast for catholics) has died. We shouldn't laugh about it. We shouldn't politicize it. We shouldn't take it to any other context.

I'm surprised and sad at the same time. Even tho i like edgy memes and memes about Pope John Paul II (he is a legend in Poland and polish community do meme about him but in a very respectful way), i really find it bad to do so about Pope Francis right now - so i dislike any post like this

[scranulum@lemm.ee]

Yeah yeah yeah you've spammed the same thing all over the thread and I don't give a fuck. We all know the issues with religion.

It's already been shown elsewhere you're sensationalizing old stories to turn another person's death into your soapbox. It's crass, and it turns people away from your message. If you're going to use someone's death as a jumping-off point for pointless masturbatory anti-religious rhetoric, be prepared for people to see it for what it is and you for what you are. Or at least use a fucking thesaurus dude.

[philpo@feddit.org]

Yeah. It's more than annoying, especially as it's the same old Vance joke again and again and again.
Which isn't even clever.

I am not a Christian by any means but I worked with them quite often. Francis did change a lot of things and while he wasn't in no way perfect - he did have his drawbacks, for a fucking pope he was much better than anyone before him within the last few hundred years.
People (especially on the internet)nowadays expect other people, especially political leaders to "check all their boxes" and if one thing is not going as far as they want, they are alienated.

Often I have the impression that as long as someone is not going "all the way" in the right direction they are seen as bad as someone who does not do anything at all or goes in the wrong direction. (Which is ironic because the church itself has evolved past the "saint or sinner" directive)

Francis has been going in the right direction probably 60% of the way and 10% in the wrong direction. Is the Catholic church there yet? No.
Is there a big chance it might turn back? Yes.
Would he been elected if he was so reformist it was sure he would topple everything and go 100%? Surely not.

But he did much more than any of his predecessors did.

Any much more most commenters do.

Besides: It's okay to feel sorry for an old man dying. That's called fucking compassion.
I work in healthcare and have seen a lot of people die. I feel sorry for almost all of them.

In the end a human has died. Period.

[bieren@lemmy.world]

This is sad. He was indeed a great pope. But, WTF did JD do?