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‘If I switch it off, my girlfriend might think I’m cheating’: inside the rise of couples location sharing

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  • C [email protected]

    How old are you guys, if you don't mind me asking? It seems that generally younger people don't see this as an innate violation of privacy, where older people feel quite surveilled and even like they're being viewed as untrustworthy for someone to ask this of them.

    I've never cheated on my spouse (not even close), I've never felt any inclination to lie about my whereabouts. I can see the safety aspect of this, logically. I would feel offended if my spouse asked me to be a dot on his phone, as if he was asking to own me. We share a home, a child, a bank account, a car, but we don't share location. I don't even keep my location activated for my own use unless I'm actively navigating somewhere new.

    We've got plenty of "normal" problems, but none of them lead me to want his location. I simply trust him enough. It feels to me like if you need your partners location on tap, you must first have other problems

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    I'd rather not disclose my age on this account, but, let's just say we're not newly married.

    I will admit my statement about location sharing only being a problem if you've already got problems was a bit too binary. The issue is more nuanced.

    I see you're focusing on the cheating aspect, which to your credit is what the OP is all about. But from our perspective, that's not even an issue or a use case for the technology. We have full trust in each other. The technology is simply useful for other reasons.

    Did she make it to work in the snowstorm or rainstorm?

    Huh she's usually home by now, is she unconscious in a ditch or just stopped at the store?

    Dinner is almost ready, I just need to put this in the oven so it's ready to come out the second she walks in the door, let me make sure she's actually on her way home. Oh, she must have gotten held up at work, I'll wait a few more minutes.

    Stuff like that. Yeah there's other ways of solving those problems, and that's fine too, we just prefer the convenience.

    We don't share locations because we don't trust each other, we share because it's convenient. I guess you could say we trust each other not to go crazy with it 🤷‍♂️

    We have married friends who won't share with each other, and that's fine too.

    I'll retract my earlier statement. Location sharing is a sensitive subject, with lots of facets. Sharing or not is a personal choice. And while there can be practical benefits, I think most people would agree that using it for cheating prevention is.... Unhealthy.

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    • cole@lemdro.idC [email protected]

      You don't need anything other than home assistant though, right? the companion apps already just do that

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      Well, I need a reverse proxy or VPN or something so that the phones can connect to my Home Assistant server from outside the LAN. That's the main thing I haven't gotten done yet.

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      • B [email protected]

        Same. For this to be a problem, you must first have other problems.

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        One of the ways I knew my marriage was over, he disabled location services and left them off for months and then years. I followed when I started fucking other people.

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          My partner and I used to use location sharing pretty much 100% of the time. We just felt better knowing we could find each other.

          But today, we do not, because the trust is shattered.

          Google just cannot be trusted with our locations.

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          • E [email protected]

            My partner and I used to use location sharing pretty much 100% of the time. We just felt better knowing we could find each other.

            But today, we do not, because the trust is shattered.

            Google just cannot be trusted with our locations.

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            There are options that don't use Google et al.

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              My partner and I used to use location sharing pretty much 100% of the time. We just felt better knowing we could find each other.

              But today, we do not, because the trust is shattered.

              Google just cannot be trusted with our locations.

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              they still have it... if your using an android phone at least... and your cell provider...

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                My partner and I used to use location sharing pretty much 100% of the time. We just felt better knowing we could find each other.

                But today, we do not, because the trust is shattered.

                Google just cannot be trusted with our locations.

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                You are still sharing it with google if you have an android phone lol

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                  Well, I need a reverse proxy or VPN or something so that the phones can connect to my Home Assistant server from outside the LAN. That's the main thing I haven't gotten done yet.

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                  ah. tailscale is great for that. I personally just leave my home assistant exposed behind a reverse proxy

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                  • C [email protected]

                    This comment is just 'what do you have to worry about it you're not doing anything wrong' with extra words.

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                    Nope. That’s only part of it. You’ve flattened the nuance into cliché without refuting the substance. But if that’s what you walked away with, that’s fine.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      My partner and I used to use location sharing pretty much 100% of the time. We just felt better knowing we could find each other.

                      But today, we do not, because the trust is shattered.

                      Google just cannot be trusted with our locations.

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                      Home Assistant

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                      • M [email protected]

                        There are options that don't use Google et al.

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                        So you have suggestions?

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                          For me, knowing my spouse’s location is just convenient for knowing ETA without bothering her. It’s not really about trust at all

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                          Same. We both follow each other and neither of us care. We mostly have it enabled for the “just in case” scenario that anything happens to one of us. We can make sure that we know of our last known location.

                          I’ve also had her use it one time I was away from home in NYC. And I was too drunk to figure out which subway to take to get back to my hotel. So she walked me through step by step while on the phone with me. It fucking rocked.

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                            So you have suggestions?

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                            maybe zood location

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                              If you have to use these things in a relationship, then you already have a problem.

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                              • Y [email protected]

                                Fun fact, location sharing is literally a form of communication. Super convenient. This thread is filled with people in shitty relationships. Yikes.

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                                You realize you are also sharing your location with third parties or you havent figured that out yet? lmao

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                                  Been sharing with select friends and family for years now, zero issues. And if we did have an issue? I'm turning it off for you 🤷‍♂️ pretty simple. Frequently extremely convenient.

                                  A friend of a friend of mine is sharing with a friend of theirs. And it's a crap show like you said, coming over, inviting themselves to events, why were you there, etc. Everything you said. And it's still a problem, to the point where they leave their phone at home if they are doing anything sensitive, because they are afraid of hurting the person's feelings by turning it off 🙄

                                  I think the key is having a backbone, and also not having crap friends 🤷‍♂️

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                                  Why would you want to share your location so third parties can have access to it?

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                                    Uhhh, I trust her which is precisely why she has my passwords. Are you guys teenagers or something?

                                    Also, location sharing is literally a form of communication. What if there’s an emergency?

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                                    Why would you want to give third parties access to your locations?

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      lol do you think your phone isn’t normally recording your your location data even without this feature turned on?

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                                      lol Do you think its not made worse by turning it on?

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                                        Home Assistant

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                                        Seconded.

                                        And having each other's location is really helpful. I'm nervous if my partner doesn't know where I am.

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                                          You'll never be able to stop someone that wants to cheat. Best you can do is be funner and sexier than anyone else your partner might be around. Never understood why that's so hard for some people.

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