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Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account

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  • I [email protected]

    I don't know what is going on at Microsoft. I'm starting to think that they are trying to pivot to a completely different business model. In addition to this Windows 11 crap and XBox seemingly being given up on, they appear to be losing their embedded market as well. In the past, if you saw any screen in an industrial setting, there's a good chance that there was the embedded Windows version behind that screen. Lately, all the new products are moving over to Linux.

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    They are, and have said they are.

    Subscriptions are the wave of the future.

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      Games. Most of the games I play don't play well with Linux.

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      What games do you play? I've been gaming exclusively on Linux since Windows 7 went EoS, and especially since the Steam Deck came out, I've had very few problems. That said I don't play competitive stuff, which is what tends to have anti-cheat rootkits.

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        Every time I hear about Microsoft it makes me wanna take a shit

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        • ripcord@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

          Now I want a Chinstrap and a Southern Rockhopper Linux.

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          Go for it!

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            This is only for the Home version of win 11.

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            But not for the home version of Wubuntu 11.

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              It is under sign in option when you get to it then choose domain join. This get you to create a local account. Just did this to 5 new computers last week.

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              And it still tries to convince you to go MS account with it's, "even better, create a Microsoft account" link that's conveniently located where the Next button should be.

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                I've used the unpatchable Win11 account loophole, that exploits a functionality of your pc, where you wipe your boot drive, and install NixOS on it

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                That's a neat trick!

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                  They give me more and more reasons to stay on W10 until I give up games and move to Linux permanently.

                  I'll miss my TCMD scripting, though. But besides that and gaming, most of what I do nowadays is cross-platform.

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                    They give me more and more reasons to stay on W10 until I give up games and move to Linux permanently.

                    I'll miss my TCMD scripting, though. But besides that and gaming, most of what I do nowadays is cross-platform.

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                    What games keep you on Windows? Besides a few anticheat-enabled ones which choose not to support it, basically everything works fine. I game (and work in gamedev!) 100% on Linux.

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                      Now I want a Chinstrap and a Southern Rockhopper Linux.

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                      Chinstrap Linux haha. It's like Fedora, but for a totally different demographic.

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                        I really hope the whole shift away from American products will convince more software and game developers to provide native support for Linux. I am approaching the fence.

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                          Why the fuck is a Microsoft account so important to Windows that running it without one is considered a "loophole"?

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                          They want to make money off of services, every service they offer requires a Microsoft account to purchase and use. Everyone that they force to make an account during setup is one step closer to paying for a Microsoft service.

                          There are obviously tradeoffs (less sales of these versions of windows and some users pushed away from Windows altogether among others), but the motivation is clear.

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                            "Sucking off Bill Gates is bad, but Linux doesn't support video games"

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                            I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago, and all my Steam games work just fine. Never looking back.

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                            • kernelle@0d.gsK [email protected]

                              You are wrong for now, it is still possible.

                              • Ctrl + Shift + F3 during setup gives you access to sysprep
                              • In an admin CMD you can excecute the BypassNRO.cmd script. In C:\Windows\System32\oobe\
                              • I have encountered one 24H2 installation where the oobe folder was empty, but if you copy the file from another device it works just the same
                              • Reboot from sysprep and you can now select "Install without internet" when selecting a WIFI

                              This will not work if you're already connected to a wifi. BypassNRO sets a registry flag, so it's only a matter of time till they patch it out, but it works for now.

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                              this does not work for Windows HOME edition

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                                And it still tries to convince you to go MS account with it's, "even better, create a Microsoft account" link that's conveniently located where the Next button should be.

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                                All I know is i been doing this for 6 months upgrading companies from win 10 to 11. I am sure you're not doing something wrong.

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                                  What games keep you on Windows? Besides a few anticheat-enabled ones which choose not to support it, basically everything works fine. I game (and work in gamedev!) 100% on Linux.

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                                  My vr driving Sim rig just works in windows, the most I've ever had to do is map my shifter in game. Steamvr, hardware drivers, the actual games, it all just works without doing anything. Plug and play. I'm sure I can get it all working in Linux, eventually. I was(trying to) gaming on Ubuntu 10.04 with wine. I was first batch steamdeck and the amount of progress with gaming I've seen thanks to valve and proton means I'll be coming back. But I'm just waiting for steamOS to be open release. But I am a KDE head so honestly I'll end up whatever distro that does proton and KDE by the end of this year.

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                                    this does not work for Windows HOME edition

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                                    Yes it does, a client needed this documentation and I've tested it extensively. The only exception is when S-Mode is enabled.

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                                      I just deleted my old Mocrosoft account. Forgot I had it until recently.

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                                        I'm so glad I finally ditched that shit for good

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                                          All I know is i been doing this for 6 months upgrading companies from win 10 to 11. I am sure you're not doing something wrong.

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                                          Upgrades are a different process than a brand new install. Going from 10 to 11 on a Pro is an easy process. Long, as in a couple hours, but easy. The post is talking about brand new installs (the OOTB experience).

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