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Ironfox doesn't have privacy.resistfingerprinting set to true in about:config?

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  • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

    How come?

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    They changed some basics from Mull and decided to go other ways. That's why I'm not using thus browser

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      They changed some basics from Mull and decided to go other ways. That's why I'm not using thus browser

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      • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

        How come?

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          waterfox

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          • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

            How come?

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            If I remember, that setting is extremely aggressive, and breaks lots of sites. Firefox has by default, a more complicated and nuanced feature that works practically as well, without breaking everything.

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              waterfox

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              But weren't they acquired by some big evil company?

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              • steve@communick.newsS [email protected]

                If I remember, that setting is extremely aggressive, and breaks lots of sites. Firefox has by default, a more complicated and nuanced feature that works practically as well, without breaking everything.

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                So is Firefox mobile or Fennec actually better in this regard?

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                • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                  But weren't they acquired by some big evil company?

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                  not anymore

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                  • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                    So is Firefox mobile or Fennec actually better in this regard?

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                    In that specific regard, probably.
                    I use Fennec. I've found the more security minded versions, tend to have problems with some site or another, and annoy me.

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                    • steve@communick.newsS [email protected]

                      In that specific regard, probably.
                      I use Fennec. I've found the more security minded versions, tend to have problems with some site or another, and annoy me.

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                      I noticed that the sites that have issues are the sites I should avoid.

                      After a while, you just don't need them if you are willing to make the changes needed to reduce that corpo exposure

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                        I noticed that the sites that have issues are the sites I should avoid.

                        After a while, you just don't need them if you are willing to make the changes needed to reduce that corpo exposure

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                        Sites like my banks, and stores, and self hosted VTT games.
                        I've had issues with all. Not acceptable

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                        • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                          How come?

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                          Idk why, it doesnt say anything on their gitlab about changing that. Maybe it is a problem with the build process? I remember on Mull a couple months ago i did a clean install and RFP was disabled. You can just enable it if you want.

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                            What's the alternative on Android tho? (not saying there isn't one, just that I don't know it if it exists)

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                            • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                              How come?

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                              In my opinion you should enable it

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                              • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                                How come?

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                                We very publicly discussed our approach to fingerprinting and the reasoning for this. But a basic TL;DR is that we're using a hardened configuration of FPP - which matches all of RFP's targets, except the few known to cause breakage/be undesirable for users. I'd recommend reading that GitLab issue for a detailed explanation, and please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

                                FYI: Arkenfox doesn't enable RFP by default anymore either, and LibreWolf is also considering switching to FPP with an approach like ours.

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                                  In my opinion you should enable it

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                                  We don't recommend enabling it; you can see our reasoning as to why we don't enable RFP here - we use a hardened configuration of FPP instead.

                                  FYI: Arkenfox doesn't enable RFP by default anymore either, and LibreWolf is also considering switching to FPP with an approach like ours.

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                                    We very publicly discussed our approach to fingerprinting and the reasoning for this. But a basic TL;DR is that we're using a hardened configuration of FPP - which matches all of RFP's targets, except the few known to cause breakage/be undesirable for users. I'd recommend reading that GitLab issue for a detailed explanation, and please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

                                    FYI: Arkenfox doesn't enable RFP by default anymore either, and LibreWolf is also considering switching to FPP with an approach like ours.

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                                    Thanks! 👍

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                                    • neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zoneN [email protected]

                                      Idk why, it doesnt say anything on their gitlab about changing that. Maybe it is a problem with the build process? I remember on Mull a couple months ago i did a clean install and RFP was disabled. You can just enable it if you want.

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                                      See here for our explanation.

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                                      • breadcat@sh.itjust.worksB [email protected]

                                        waterfox

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                                        Waterfox contains proprietary Google Play libraries, and doesn't include any hardening when compared to standard Firefox on Android. It's a completely different project with a different set of goals than IronFox or Mull.

                                        You would be far better off using standard Firefox over Waterfox, in terms of privacy & security.

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                                          They changed some basics from Mull and decided to go other ways. That's why I'm not using thus browser

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                                          They changed some basics from Mull and decided to go other ways.

                                          What basics did we change, and why do you have a problem with them?

                                          IronFox still has the same core goals/mission as Mull: to provide a privacy & security-oriented Firefox-based web browser for Android. If IronFox isn't for you, that's completely fine - but I'm just perplexed by your reasoning here, and would appreciate any elaboration so that we can improve.

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