Webcam on/off: workplace vs political spaces

[sylver_dragon@lemmy.world]

I work remote and my work has a pretty loose policy on webcams for meetings. If you don't want it on, don't turn it on. That said, when I am presenting or speaking, I like to have my webcam on. I personally find that the level of engagement is higher for speakers with their camera on, and so I try to extend that back to the people I am speaking to. I also find that the inclusion of visual cues helps with communications.

As for political spaces, my local congress person holds a regular townhall via telephone (not sure if she'll keep this up if she wins the governorship this year) and I have never really felt the need to stare at her as she talks. I actually like the format as I can listen with my earbuds while doing something else. So, different situations can merit a different response.

Honestly, I think some folks make far more out of using or not using a webcam than it really merits. For those of us who are more introverted, having a camera on us can make us feel self-conscious. Though, I think using the word "trauma" to describe this is being overly bombastic. At the same time, I think there are some folks for whom the visual connection with a speaker or listener is also important and the lack visual of feedback from the other participants in the conversation makes the conversation more difficult. It's just another of those areas where we are each going to need to make a decision based on the particular conversation and context. Interacting with other people is messy and is going to involve some level of discomfort from time to time.

[doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca]

webcams demand you to be presentable and make your space presentable

No they don't. That's an artifical societal demand. Interacting in public with anyone "heightens the need" to be presentable, but there's no one forcing you to dress up nice or put on makeup.

IMO women need to take back the idea that we're expected to slather on makeup before we're "presentable". I prefer to think of myself as attractive, and makeup might enhance that for special occasions, but au naturel is my default for day to day, including webcams.

[classifiedpancake@discuss.tchncs.de]

When people blur the background my only thought is they simply want privacy. It's their personal space so it doesn't need to be presented to everyone. What people do with their home is not my concern.

[chobeat@lemmy.ml]

You cannot escape social norms. The act of rejecting them doesn't free you from them. You will be judged for rejecting them and others will adapt to it, either by rejecting them too and creating a new social norm, or shunning you and attaching a certain rejection to a specific social signal. There's nothing artificial on it. The logic you describe is very oblivious to how social norms and social actors work.

Also here we are talking about webcams not really as technological artifacts, but as social tools. Obviously it's not a technical requirement to be presentable, but a social requirement, that's implicit in the discussion.

[wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

This really comes across as if you just keep shifting so that you can continue finding something to complain about. It's ok to just not like having your camera on man. Not everything has to be the kicking off point for a sociological or anthropological study.

Backgrounds visible? It forces you to have your space display worthy!

Backgrounds blurred? Everyone knows your place isn't display worthy and thinks you're a disgusting pig!

Company provided background images? Corporate endorsed removal of individualism!

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What you've touched on here is part of the intent. Not that they want to erase individuals, but that in general a more controlled corporate image is seen as more professional.

If you want to talk about how/why that's a thing, be my guest, but that has nothing to do with video conferencing. Work dress code and even work uniforms have existed for generations.

[hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works]

I noticed that my colleagues that didn't turn webcams on were all women, so I started turning mine off for anything I thought they might attend.

[xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml]

My webcam and microphone are disabled in the bios. Oh sorry i mispoke they are broken.

[bertramditore@lemm.ee]

My entire team and I work remotely (since before Covid), and it has never been an issue. Nobody puts any extra effort into their appearance, everybody wears sweats and loungewear and women don’t wear makeup. Most of us blur our backgrounds so nobody can see our spaces, but this does not imply anything about our homes other than the fact that we all like our privacy. I can even hear my manager’s breast pump going during meetings (it’s out of frame, obviously), and nobody cares, she’s got a baby to feed after all.

We’re all people with different lives, different homes, and different bodies. As long as we all get our work done, nobody cares what we look like, sound like, or how our homes are decorated. If you’re feeling undue pressure from your employer about what your personal appearance or spaces are like, I don’t think that company is a good fit. If there are genuine mental health issues at play, then a good company will make a reasonable accommodation to ensure your work doesn’t cause any undue harm.

[wabasso@lemmy.ca]

I’m fairly confident you and the person you’re replying to are on the same page. Drop the word “artificial” in their post and nothing conflicts with what you’ve said.

They have made a call to action to reject the societal norm, that they are not oblivious to, and hope that it goes via the first of the two scenarios you gave.

[jjjalljs@ttrpg.network]

I guess it's part of my massive privilege, but I join all my work calls in my bath robe and don't blur out the background. I don't give a shit, and if you do you shouldn't.

Facial expression and other body language sends a lot of information. It's useful.

[some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org]

The two people who turn on cameras at my current employer stand out as everyone else has them off. It’s refreshing. My last job required them on.