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  • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

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    As a general rule, I tend to steer away from slogans and from black or white definitions (things like ‘either you’re with us or you’re against us’) type of definitions.

    The phrase you are looking for in English here is dichotomous logic.

    I've not been a big reader. It was more of a challenge to read some a couple of series just to say that I have. The vast majority of my books are reference material. I am a Maker; a crafts person. Physical disability from a car crashing into me while riding a bicycle to work 11 years ago has pushed me somewhat into books.

    As they say, books about fantasy are for those that regret the past. Books about nonfiction are for those that regret the present. And science fiction is for those that regret the future. Barely surviving a broken neck and back has consequences in the long term that make life much harder and shorter. I know my regrets and what I enjoy reading to escape.

    Work is a funny thing. When it is gone from your life suddenly, at a young age, the loss of purpose that work brings is felt very acutely. That is the biggest challenge, or it was for me in the 3-5 year range after the crash.

    I owned my own business with employees twice, both times I was painting cars. The hardest lesson to learn with automotive paint and refinishing is how to defeat yourself and your emotions. The perfect standard of automotive paint does not care how many times it takes spraying primer and sanding it down, or prying on some metal, or applying layers of filler. Perfection is a result. It is hard and thankless work because one's greatest triumph is to go completely unnoticed.

    I have done many other jobs too. I'm very adaptable. In my opinion, in business, the person that can infer how something works without needing a reference, or learn from watching someone else do a thing once - is a most valuable skill.

    I have always been curious about the lowest level processes I can achieve. I don't want to go buy a thing I can go make myself. I liked cars and when I was young I read that, of all the skills that car enthusiasts generally possessed, paint was the rare black art that few people dared to learn or try themselves. So the first thing I learned was how to paint. I built motors and worked in a machine shop porting heads for awhile – another rare art. Before the crash that got me, I was working on my car and many projects that were coming together. One of those was building a small home foundry setup to do my own metal castings.

    After the crash, I got into programming microcontrollers and etching my own circuit boards. While everyone was sending board designs to China, I was still making my own at home. With programming I am curious about the lowest levels of compute. I like to build my own little circuits and sensors.

    I'm into 3d printing and design. I design all my own stuff from scratch in CAD. I've learned the geometry and figured out the topological naming issue to make proper designs.

    I also like reverse engineering circuits in KiCAD and making documentation graphics in Inkscape. I've learned Linux at a reasonably advanced level too. I've scratched the surface of astronomy and building my own eyepieces with lens stacks using surplus lenses and junk.

    In all of these things, the common thread is finding purpose in doing whatever thing. It is a seeking of an internal sense of accomplishment. It's all endorphins really. I don't get a sense of satisfaction from politics in general. I often feel frustration and injustice. It is a dangerous feeling for a capable but disabled Maker; to feel such a frustration; to feel like one is not in control of one's destiny. So I avoid it for now, because worrying about things I cannot change is a waste of energy.
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    The phrase you are looking for in English here is dichotomous logic.

    Thx 🙂

    Work is a funny thing. When it is gone from your life suddenly, at a young age, the loss of purpose that work brings is felt very acutely. That is the biggest challenge, or it was for me in the 3-5 year range after the crash.

    I can understand that. I escaped death by sheer luck but surviving meant I had to quit the job I had and the job I dreamed of doing, as a kid. It took me a few years to get over it... And I never worked with the same intensity after that.

    I am a Maker; a crafts person.

    So am I. Not only with my hands (I even learned to sew, aged 40 and learned soldering electronics in my early 50s) but with my head too. I see no difference except that we don't use the same raw materials 😉

    In all of these things, the common thread is finding purpose in doing whatever thing. It is a seeking of an internal sense of accomplishment

    100%. It's even more important after the loss of something wed used to be able to do and enjoyed doing so much (not even mentioning we may have been good at doing it). Be it in a car accident like it happened to you, or for any other reason. Feeling we're doing something that's worth it that is key. And I know will start to sound like a broken record but imho that sense of accomplishment is also something that is being taken away from younger people. They're not allowed to feel proud of themselves anymore, which is very... destructive.

    I don’t get a sense of satisfaction from politics in general.

    I think it would be hard to feel otherwise. no matter where one lives. Here in France, say the whole EU, things are not looking great either. But then I consider our last 500 years of history and realize all the hardship our societies have gone through and how they managed to get out of those better/stronger and I think to myself we may be able to go through what is bound to happen, no matter the incompetency/dishonesty of too many of our politicians.

    I often feel frustration and injustice. It is a dangerous feeling for a capable but disabled Maker; to feel such a frustration; to feel like one is not in control of one’s destiny. So I avoid it for now, because worrying about things I cannot change is a waste of energy.

    I wish so many more people would think likewise. All that saved energy could then be put to good use. Like making stuff 😉

    BTW, 3D is something that I've been interested in for years but living my spouse in our small apartment (a choice we made decades ago) makes it very difficult to say the least.

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      As someone who's slightly center-right, a significant number of my opinions are unpopular on this platform. But setting politics and social issues aside, I'd say the nuclear bomb of my unpopular opinions is my belief in determinism - and, by extension, my claim that free will is an illusion.

      By that, I mean the idea that you could have done otherwise in a given situation is false. If we had a time machine and could replay a moment exactly as it was, you'd make the same choice every single time. Whatever caused you to make that decision the first time would cause you to do it again - without exception.

      A related belief of mine is that the sense of self is also an illusion. To me, these are two sides of the same coin. By “self,” I mean the feeling that there’s a subject behind your face, looking out at the world. But that’s just brain chemistry. There’s no point in the brain where it all comes together - no central “you” making decisions. That’s why there’s no free will either - because there’s nothing making the decisions. They’re simply being made.

      The illusion comes from the fact of consciousness. The fact of subjective experience. It feels like something to be you, from the inside. There’s qualia to your existence.

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      I'm sorry to say, but I find that thinking really scary!

      Can't it be used as an excuse everything? It wasn't me it was everything that others did before. Oh, and there's no me. There's no you either! So don't say that I hurt you, as that's impossible!

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        I'm sorry to say, but I find that thinking really scary!

        Can't it be used as an excuse everything? It wasn't me it was everything that others did before. Oh, and there's no me. There's no you either! So don't say that I hurt you, as that's impossible!

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        Well, it does remove the justification for blame - there’s no one to blame - but it doesn’t excuse bad behavior. If someone hits another person and says, “I couldn’t help myself, I have no free will,” then while that statement may be factually correct, it still signals how they’re likely to behave in the future. So jailing them is reasonable - not as punishment, but to protect others.

        It’s similar to when a bear wanders into a residential area and attacks someone. We don’t shoot the bear because we think it’s evil - it’s just a bear. We do it to protect innocent people.

        Laws do work as a deterrent. Knowing that actions have consequences affects how people behave. Retroactively, you could argue it’s not fair to jail someone who couldn’t have acted differently, but if people catch on that there are no real consequences - that we’re just bluffing - then more people will start breaking those laws. That’s why we need to follow through with those “threats,” even if, philosophically, it doesn’t fully make sense.

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          Sugar and the industrial farming system are literally poisoning the food supply and driving a epidemic of chronic disease globally

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            Well, it does remove the justification for blame - there’s no one to blame - but it doesn’t excuse bad behavior. If someone hits another person and says, “I couldn’t help myself, I have no free will,” then while that statement may be factually correct, it still signals how they’re likely to behave in the future. So jailing them is reasonable - not as punishment, but to protect others.

            It’s similar to when a bear wanders into a residential area and attacks someone. We don’t shoot the bear because we think it’s evil - it’s just a bear. We do it to protect innocent people.

            Laws do work as a deterrent. Knowing that actions have consequences affects how people behave. Retroactively, you could argue it’s not fair to jail someone who couldn’t have acted differently, but if people catch on that there are no real consequences - that we’re just bluffing - then more people will start breaking those laws. That’s why we need to follow through with those “threats,” even if, philosophically, it doesn’t fully make sense.

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            Knowing that actions have consequences affects how people behave.

            How? People are automatons programmed by laws? How are the laws made?

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              Knowing that actions have consequences affects how people behave.

              How? People are automatons programmed by laws? How are the laws made?

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              If you know that driving over a certain speed limit will increase your chance of getting a ticket, then you're less likely to do so.

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                If you know that driving over a certain speed limit will increase your chance of getting a ticket, then you're less likely to do so.

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                You can't because you've no free will. Regardless of the law, the speed you'll drive is the speed you'll drive, no?

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                  Sugar and the industrial farming system are literally poisoning the food supply and driving a epidemic of chronic disease globally

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                  We have an ongoing decades long war against 'big sugar' here in Florida. They are decimating the land.

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                    We have an ongoing decades long war against 'big sugar' here in Florida. They are decimating the land.

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                    It really is insidious, the money is everywhere! I wish you the best in that fight.

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                    • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                      This “hydration” crap.

                      Up until the late 1970’s for approx 300,000 years of humans being around hydrated themselves just fine.

                      Long as there was water available one would drink when their body signaled them by getting thirsty (don’t care about exceptions to the rule where someone has a medical issue or if water was limited in high school, your a big person now). All of a sudden humans forgot to drink fluids?

                      Bullshit.

                      It’s just yet another scam the drink makers have perpetrated to get people to buy the various liquid products they sell.

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                      People have been living longer and longer. If you want the same life span as our ancestors, then follow their diet.

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                        If God exists he/she/it doesn't in anyway you've been taught, regardless of belief or religion.

                        Most people can't accurately describe how an old school lightbulb works, yet somehow ancient mankind understood the mind of God.

                        Horse shit.

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                          Pick your cutoff age but it should be illegal to groom children into an organized religion. Frankly, since human brains are still developing until age 24-25 that would be my choice but 21 would be acceptable. "Let go and let god" is literally advocating for a trained lack of critical thinking skills.

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                          • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                            This “hydration” crap.

                            Up until the late 1970’s for approx 300,000 years of humans being around hydrated themselves just fine.

                            Long as there was water available one would drink when their body signaled them by getting thirsty (don’t care about exceptions to the rule where someone has a medical issue or if water was limited in high school, your a big person now). All of a sudden humans forgot to drink fluids?

                            Bullshit.

                            It’s just yet another scam the drink makers have perpetrated to get people to buy the various liquid products they sell.

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                            I'm sorry, what?

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                              Pick your cutoff age but it should be illegal to groom children into an organized religion. Frankly, since human brains are still developing until age 24-25 that would be my choice but 21 would be acceptable. "Let go and let god" is literally advocating for a trained lack of critical thinking skills.

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                              Grooming is so gross, but it's not like Christians are out there targeting children, right? That would be insane wouldn't it, everyone?

                              https://www.cefonline.com/articles/teach-kids-articles/the-4-14-window/

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                              • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                                This “hydration” crap.

                                Up until the late 1970’s for approx 300,000 years of humans being around hydrated themselves just fine.

                                Long as there was water available one would drink when their body signaled them by getting thirsty (don’t care about exceptions to the rule where someone has a medical issue or if water was limited in high school, your a big person now). All of a sudden humans forgot to drink fluids?

                                Bullshit.

                                It’s just yet another scam the drink makers have perpetrated to get people to buy the various liquid products they sell.

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                                Same, but skin hydration / moisturizing. That's 300,000 years of human history without Aveeno. The skincare industry is a scam to sell product, and our skin works fine if you mostly leave it alone.

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                                  You can't because you've no free will. Regardless of the law, the speed you'll drive is the speed you'll drive, no?

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                                  The speed you'll drive is the product of innumerable in-born and external influences (which include past experience). Laws would be useless if people had free will, actually. They work because of a deterrent effect; getting pulled over paying fines, and maybe going to jail feels bad. It's the threat of feeling bad that makes laws an effective incentive, and we can't change that emotional response.

                                  If humans had free will, though, we could decide how we emotionally react to anything. We could decide to flip a switch in our minds so that jail is emotionally fulfilling and preferable to freedom. Then there'd be no way to punish anybody, and thus we could have no laws.

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                                    The speed you'll drive is the product of innumerable in-born and external influences (which include past experience). Laws would be useless if people had free will, actually. They work because of a deterrent effect; getting pulled over paying fines, and maybe going to jail feels bad. It's the threat of feeling bad that makes laws an effective incentive, and we can't change that emotional response.

                                    If humans had free will, though, we could decide how we emotionally react to anything. We could decide to flip a switch in our minds so that jail is emotionally fulfilling and preferable to freedom. Then there'd be no way to punish anybody, and thus we could have no laws.

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                                    If humans had free will, though, we could decide how we emotionally react to anything. We could decide to flip a switch in our minds

                                    Exactly! ❤️ That's the trap that sadly keeps a person locked in his mind. The slave's curse. And I'm sorry it's happening to you. I've been there before, as well.

                                    Know that you are more than the sum of your environment and history, good or bad. You can decide to do something, just because you like doing it. You might not even remember what you like doing. It can take a while to find out, but you'll find it. And from there it will grow.

                                    You're not trapped, just hurt. 🌸

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                                      Same, but skin hydration / moisturizing. That's 300,000 years of human history without Aveeno. The skincare industry is a scam to sell product, and our skin works fine if you mostly leave it alone.

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                                      Your correct most beauty and skin care products are a scam. One of my favs is drown your hair in goop which is dead by the time it leaves the folicle.

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                                        I'm sorry, what?

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                                        Can you expound please. Your input not clear.

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                                          You can't because you've no free will. Regardless of the law, the speed you'll drive is the speed you'll drive, no?

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                                          You're thinking of a fatalistic universe, where the future is predetermined, rather than a deterministic one, where every action follows from a prior cause. It’s not that you choose to follow the speed limit out of free will - you simply don’t want to get into trouble, so you’re compelled to obey it. But even that want isn’t something you chose.

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