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We are way overdue for an open source 2d printer

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  • R [email protected]

    That makes sense. If you’re going that route though you should be fairly safe patent wise I would think? Most of the dot matrix patents, if not all, have to be expired by now?

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    I'm not a lawyer, but I would expect so.

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    • R [email protected]

      CUPS works great when it does work but it can be a real pain in the ass. That said if you build the printer around it it would probably work pretty well

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      CUPS is a blessing and a curse. Even when it works perfectly, fingers are crossed the next time.

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        Every time this is brought up someone has to remind people that printers watermark whatever they print with a unique ID in barely readable type. That's, for example, why they refuse to print something in black when yellow is low. And it's a legal requirement.

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          I feel so blessed by having small laser black only printer that just works. Never again ink printer

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            just today I read that microsoft will stop accepting any new printer drivers. If new printers are to work, they must support mopria and IPP.

            That should eventually have positive side effects for us linux users

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            If I remember correctly, the restriction is that Microsoft will no longer distribute new print drivers via Windows Update. But I agree that moving to a common standard will help everyone’s print experience immensely. Trying to deal with HPs drivers is nightmare fuel.

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              How else will the police track your documents back to you without invisible fingerprints.

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              If you've got a printer that does that, add lots of yellow dots to your document before printing it.

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                At least you were able to communicate with it.

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                  Every time this is brought up someone has to remind people that printers watermark whatever they print with a unique ID in barely readable type. That's, for example, why they refuse to print something in black when yellow is low. And it's a legal requirement.

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                  Black and white printers can't do that, but as I mentioned in another comnent, if you do have a color printer, add lots of yellow dots before you print it out.

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                    Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?

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                    • K [email protected]

                      Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?

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                      HP wants to know your location

                      literally though

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                      • W [email protected]

                        Or use plotters. These are the same X-Y setup as a 3D printer, where you use a pen instead of an extrusion module. There are a bunch of DIY projects for this. But now you're talking about minutes per page, not pages per minute.

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                        Plotters are so much slower than printers, but having one write your document out for you would be so cool. This is one reason I would buy a Cricut.

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                          Every time this is brought up someone has to remind people that printers watermark whatever they print with a unique ID in barely readable type. That's, for example, why they refuse to print something in black when yellow is low. And it's a legal requirement.

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                          That is only specific brands like HP with only specific models as well.

                          https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots

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                          • R [email protected]

                            An open source 2d printer is possible but will probably never happen

                            The print head is incredibly complex, the drivers and communications to talk to printers are all closed source, and unlike 3d printing the level of quality people are accustomed to is covered by patents for another 20-30 years

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                            Most of my printing needs don't even require "near letter quality". I can deal with a modern equivalent to a 9-pin printer and just send out final versions for professional printing.

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                              US patents expire after 20 years.

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                              obscenely expensive birth, no parental leave, no childcare support... it's a wonder they last that long.

                              edit: now op changed parents to patents and i look like an idiot. let us make fun of your obvious typo

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                                Bring back Dot Matrix!!

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                                She was pretty hot in ReBoot

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  The latter. Someone could create a novel means of transferring ink onto paper in a way that results in high resolution images and give it to the world for free i suppose

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                                  Don't need to be novel, everything from 2005 and older is no longer under patent.

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                                    That is only specific brands like HP with only specific models as well.

                                    https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots

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                                    Your own link says that as of 2017 assume all new printers print some form of tracking

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                                      US patents expire after 20 years.

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                                      Now that I think about it that is when mine started to get pretty shitty.

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                                        Yes!! A 2d printer that you can assemble with 3d printed parts. Let's do it. Which technologies can we use to 2d print that are easy to assemble?

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          An open source 2d printer is possible but will probably never happen

                                          The print head is incredibly complex, the drivers and communications to talk to printers are all closed source, and unlike 3d printing the level of quality people are accustomed to is covered by patents for another 20-30 years

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                                          I want the scanner part.

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