Canada and Mexico hit back after Trump signs order for punishing tariffs

[skyrmir@lemmy.world]

Given current politics, maybe. It's a big expenditure that could go bankrupt if the current political insanity gets shut down. I think if the government put some guarantees of future support in case that happens it would instantly be a worth while project. Which probably depends on selling it as a national security and resilience issue.

[dumpdog@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Woah man, slow up with all the downvotes. This is a suggestion to think strategically instead of doing a reactionary show to "look strong". The reactionary show will fuck up small business and the majority of Canadians more than well thought out tariffs and other targeted measures.

[dumpdog@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Examine CUSMA and do the opposite of what the US wanted...

[dumpdog@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

YES. Can we listen to this

[peppycito@sh.itjust.works]

I was in Halifax for the first time this summer. I guess looking back it's pretty crowded already. I saw some huge ships and parking lots unloading cars so I guess they're already busy with that. I'm going to Montreal on March break, I'll be sure to pay attention to their shipping arrangements. They're more of a container port I think?

[danquebec@sh.itjust.works]

I live right next to the port of Montréal, so I can provide info if you want. But I know nothing about ports. All I can say is that there's a lot of containers, big round things (to store oil?), and various industry including sugar, beer, some battery-related chemistry, among other things.

There's another port, also close to where I live, that's actually in another city. But it seems to be a city mostly for industry. It has only a mere 2000 inhabitants, and a lot of industry, especially oil. The city has the uninspiring name of "Montréal-est".

[danquebec@sh.itjust.works]

I feel like Canada being only 1/10th of the US's population, it doesn't matter much. It would be much better to hurt them with something fundamental to other parts of the economy, like lumber, oil, parts...

[dubyakay@lemmy.ca]

Most ships can actually go up the St Lawrence to the port of Montreal easily, and even further on the seaway.

Source: my buddy's brother is a unionized commercial navigator.

[werefreeatlast@lemmy.world]

Joke's on you orange pile of dung! I got me a yearly supply of avocados from Mexico! I could afford 5!

If I eat them 1 gram per day and I freeze dry them, I should have avocado for life!

[unknown@sh.itjust.works]

That was a good read, thanks.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Thank you, that was exactly my intension.

However, I think that comment is already dead.

[thebestaquaman@lemmy.world]

I seem to remember that what the EU did to good effect last time this asshat was president was to place extremely directed tariffs/taxes on specific goods from Trump-friendly areas. Essentially saying "we're going to toll oranges from this specific county in that specific swing state in order to drive a couple specific producers out of business", and then did that across the country. The advantage being that WTO agreements allow you to answer tariffs dollar-for-dollar, so you can respond to wide-reaching tolls that amount to X USD (e.g. tolls on the entire European aluminium industry) with extremely hard-hitting tolls on very specific producers.

We should be doing that again. Don't touch the wider American population, but put all our weight into hitting hard against cornerstone businesses in pro-trump counties. Make them regret voting this guy in thinking it would better their economy.

[jaxxed@lemmy.ml]

Probably also need to reinforce transit out of Halifax to ha dle more cargo transit.

[felixcress@lemmy.world]

I think it was on specific goods produced in the states supporting Trump. Yes, this is definitely the answer.