Save The Planet
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It's like the server centers are built with such high power draw in mind, simplified by the fact it's centralized and predictable power draw.
AI datacenters are very far from the typical electrical load of a cloud datacenter, no existing data center has planned appropriately for this because we're only now discovering the bad effects it's having on the grid
Funnily enough AC usage is very easily modelled because it's a well understood distributed load, directly linked to weather. Plus large modern buildings should be built with grid aware AC that adjusts load based on grid demand anyway. I know Siemens and Ericsson both have commercial solutions for that, so I imagine there's more I don't know about.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. And if your neighbour is dosing the neighbourhood with gasoline while wildfires are on the horizon, you smack him, you don't go and get your own can.
Agreed, but this is like comparing your neighbor burning 1 million acres to you having a bonfire. The scale is the problem. We should absolutely take individual responsibility; however, our small impact is only felt when we band together.
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That would be a solution. Public trading of energy by power companies throughout the day has existed for decades (see e.g. EPEX spot). It's just a matter of exposing these dynamic prices to consumers. This already exists in the Netherlands.
In the US, some of us already have dynamic pricing options available, and they end up with thousand dollar power bills sometimes, because this is America!
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Two wrongs don't make a right. And if your neighbour is dosing the neighbourhood with gasoline while wildfires are on the horizon, you smack him, you don't go and get your own can.
Switch all traditional AC to being powered by Heat Pumps, destroy all private jets, ban recreational flights and power AI responsibly or not at all.
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In Germany there is a discussion going on about a stock exchange price for electricity. Ie cheaper price during overproduction and higher price during high demand. Then you don't need solar to benefit from everyone else having solar. Then you could e.g. "just" fill up a local battery with cheap electricity and use it when power is expensive.
You don't have rates like that? In Austria you can just get a rate that will charge the 15 minute spot market price. That can be even negative during the day, but then also might be quite high at other periods.
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Switch all traditional AC to being powered by Heat Pumps, destroy all private jets, ban recreational flights and power AI responsibly or not at all.
ban recreational flights
No. Either ban all flights (excluding medical) or none. Otherwise, it will be something only available to those gambling the system.
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Switch all traditional AC to being powered by Heat Pumps, destroy all private jets, ban recreational flights and power AI responsibly or not at all.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Most domestic flights should be replaced by highspeed rail anyways.
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Agreed, but this is like comparing your neighbor burning 1 million acres to you having a bonfire. The scale is the problem. We should absolutely take individual responsibility; however, our small impact is only felt when we band together.
our small impact is only felt when we band together
It is also offset immediately when unregulated corporations use the saved energy to sell us the next dumb thing.
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Switch all traditional AC to being powered by Heat Pumps, destroy all private jets, ban recreational flights and power AI responsibly or not at all.
Switch all traditional AC to being powered by Heat Pumps
Aren't traditional AC's (assuming you are somewhere where AC is a thing used to cool the air) already heat pumps?
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ban recreational flights
No. Either ban all flights (excluding medical) or none. Otherwise, it will be something only available to those gambling the system.
People have family they should be allowed to see and work they need to travel for.
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I have a crazy theory that requests like these will actually push people to care more about and take action on global warming.
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People have family they should be allowed to see and work they need to travel for.
Yup like my meeting in the Bahamas
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Switch all traditional AC to being powered by Heat Pumps
Aren't traditional AC's (assuming you are somewhere where AC is a thing used to cool the air) already heat pumps?
In my attempt at brevity, I articulated myself wrong, totally my bad. I would like the old school systems replaced with either air source heat pumps or ground source heat pumps, backed up with on-site solar and batteries. Modern heat pump systems can heat and cool and are much more efficient than AC as generally installed.
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I don't think it follows that the people asking you to reduce your AC usage are also the same people able to control AI power consumption.
We have got a stop treating our institutions as monoliths so we can effectively interact with the individual pieces that construct them. If you go into a place of power ready to heap all your gripes with the system on the single person who's only job is to allow you to interface with that system, you're not going to make headway.
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I'm here for the pic
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Two wrongs don't make a right. And if your neighbour is dosing the neighbourhood with gasoline while wildfires are on the horizon, you smack him, you don't go and get your own can.
Great, now this might work with my neighbor, but how exactly do I smack mega corps and the state? Are we talking eco terrorism here or do you have some other idea that hasn't been tried in the last decades?
I mean, climate change isn't new but humanity still fucks up the planet and that does not seem to change. Why should we have to sweat at home while professionalized greed burns down everything around us? I will gladly take individual responsibility, but not alone.
Actually, a failing power grid here and there might act as a wake-up call and then we can start talking about solutions, not just symptomatic treatment.
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Yup like my meeting in the Bahamas
If your meeting requires you to go to the Bahamas, so be it. But there are doctors and nurses that have been travelling around the world, educators that travel, carers, archeologists. Yes, some will attempt to game the system, but there's a lot of good people doing vital work that need to travel.
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Can we not all just organise to go and shut these places down?
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I don't think it follows that the people asking you to reduce your AC usage are also the same people able to control AI power consumption.
We have got a stop treating our institutions as monoliths so we can effectively interact with the individual pieces that construct them. If you go into a place of power ready to heap all your gripes with the system on the single person who's only job is to allow you to interface with that system, you're not going to make headway.
I mean it's usually the power utility telling you to do that and they're the ones making deals with the data centers so I think the criticism is fairly directed.
