Italy to require VPN and DNS providers to block pirated content
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So Italy is going to block all VPNs, then?
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I bet there comes the day that I need to share access to my server to allow people from other countries accessing the real free web through me…
Host a Tor node or bridge right now if it is safe for you))
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Don't combine. Just use tor or a VPN.
What? The link you posted didn't even say that. Just to avoid if your not an advance user. They literally have a page explaining benefits...
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The only options you have are:
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Dazn Standard (45€/month, 35€/month if you pay for 12 months) to get access to all the SerieA matches (and a whole bunch of other sports nobody cares about)
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Dazn Goal Pass (20€/month, 14€/month if you pay for 12 months) to get access to 3 SerieA matches per week which you don't get to choose (and a bunch of other sports nobody cares about)
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Sky (16€/month for the first 18 months, then whatever Sky wants after that) to get access to 3 SerieA matches per week which you don't get to choose (and a bunch of other stuff nobody cares about)
Most people care only about some specific matches, so your only option is Dazn.
Dazn is also a very crappy service, it often has connectivity problems and also has ads. Fun fact, if you get a connection issue while watching a Dazn ad, it will restart.
So, as usual, monopoly, high costs and crappy services drive piracy.
Wow, that's way worse than I imagined. No wonder people watch illegal streams!
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Don't combine. Just use tor or a VPN.
What nonsense. If I want my origin to tor to start with a VPN then I will and I'll be more anonymous because of it.
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Can’t you just vpn to another vpn ?
I’m not an expert on internet security but I do know there is no way in hell to legislate around blocking internet. Even China’s great firewall isn’t working.
I guess by passing legislation like this you get most people to be compliant, but this is about pirates, who were already actively non compliant in the first place.
The folks who pirate the content are literally going to have to click one extra button or something like that to work around the vpns trying to block stuff…
Tor essentially
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I'm sure there will be workarounds.
I think there are plenty of people who would be pirates if it were more convenient, but I suspect the point of diminishing returns for legislation has already been passed. If you're savvy and dedicated enough to use a VPN in the first place, then this probably won't stop you. Non-tech-savvy people are already turned off of torrents for half a dozen different reasons.
DNS, though? That will block a lot of people from accessing things like Z-library, which is currently easy enough to access for anyone who knows how to use Google.
China's measures have been largely successful, unfortunately. It's still possible to VPN out, but it's a risk a lot of people are unwilling to take since it could realistically get them in trouble. I've lost contact with some friends in China because we have no shared platforms and the increasing blocking measures over the past 10 years finally passed their tolerance threshold.
I guess I could figure out how to use iMessage, which AFAIK is the only end-to-end encrypted messaging service that still works (or at least the only moderately popular one). Makes me wonder how secure it really is if China hasn't banned it...
China is a whole other can of worms. It's not so much the firewall, but the regime.
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They will, at best, mildly inconvenienced the pirates.
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They will, at best, mildly inconvenienced the pirates.
I've been pirating a long time. Not once have I been inconvenienced by any anti-Piracy measure. There's always another way around.
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Can’t you just vpn to another vpn ?
I’m not an expert on internet security but I do know there is no way in hell to legislate around blocking internet. Even China’s great firewall isn’t working.
I guess by passing legislation like this you get most people to be compliant, but this is about pirates, who were already actively non compliant in the first place.
The folks who pirate the content are literally going to have to click one extra button or something like that to work around the vpns trying to block stuff…
Can’t you just vpn to another vpn ?
Won't even have to. Just use any VPN provider outside of Italy that doesn't have to comply with Italian law. lol.
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Don't combine. Just use tor or a VPN.
I still don't have an understanding whether this meaningfully downgrades Tor's security. Because if there was no extra harm, it would be helpful when bridges are blocked frequently, but some VPN services (or just your own VPS setup) have a better obfuscation.
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How exactly will they force compliance for companies not based in Italy, or even the EU?
Making something illegal and actually stopping it are two different things. Also see: drugs.
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Can’t you just vpn to another vpn ?
I’m not an expert on internet security but I do know there is no way in hell to legislate around blocking internet. Even China’s great firewall isn’t working.
I guess by passing legislation like this you get most people to be compliant, but this is about pirates, who were already actively non compliant in the first place.
The folks who pirate the content are literally going to have to click one extra button or something like that to work around the vpns trying to block stuff…
Take this with a grain of salt, I am by no means qualified to say anything on this topic with total certainty.
All a VPN does is encrypt traffic between you and the VPN. The VPN Hub you're connected to has to unencrypted your outbound traffic, fulfilling those requests, and then encrypting inbound traffic back to you. A VPN obscures traffic by allowing you to make your requests from a different location, where thousands of others also do it, all while hiding who is making any requests it fulfills, and hiding your activity from your ISP with encryption. A good VPN will also not keep logs of anything it does, and will have options to connect to Hubs outside of five eyes countries.
This would mean that while the VPN might not know who is making what requests, they would know what those requests are, so they could blacklist illegal content. All this to say a VPN >VPN >VPN > VPN still has a final VPN that has to make the request, and they will know where the request is going and what its for. But unless that final VPN company or Hub is actually inside of Italy they have no jurisdiction.
The real problem with this method is A) who determines what is blacklisted B) How do you enforce this blacklist C) How do you make the blacklist grow as fast as pirates spread out. This is a stupid law that wouldn't do anything even if the entire world got on board.
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I've been pirating a long time. Not once have I been inconvenienced by any anti-Piracy measure. There's always another way around.
Having to find a way around is an inconvenience.
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Having to find a way around is an inconvenience.
lol not really. Not a single piracy measure I've ever come across was anything more than a 3-5 minute Google fix away.
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By banning and blocking all VPN providers not based in Italy.
Sounds like a possible violation of EU rights. Similar practices have cost other governments dearly in the past.
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there is proxies, which arnt vpn they will just switch to those.
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Can’t you just vpn to another vpn ?
Won't even have to. Just use any VPN provider outside of Italy that doesn't have to comply with Italian law. lol.
mullvad doesn't know where you live nor do they care.
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Imagine stuffing so much cash in the butt of a rich guy, only to look how other, most likely better earners than you, play against each others using a tiny ball.
I don’t get sports fanatics…
I don’t get sports fanatics…
Most people just want to watch a match of their home town/favourite team maybe once a week. This is very moderate, what's so bad about that? However in order to do that they either have to either spend an absurd amount of money to get access to all matches, or spend a bit less money to play lottery and hope the match they wanted to watch gets selected.
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Why tf are countries with a suffering middle and lower classes targeting them especially?
To squeeze one more monthly subscription out of them?
To just make then skip the culture they can't afford? -
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