EU considers tariffs on digital services Big Tech
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It's not about the providers, it's about the move. Companies will need to migrate their infrastructure to another platform which (let's be honest) likely will not have the bandwidth / rack space / hardware to support the influx of users. Companies will self host? Okay sure: time to spin up internal clusters, train employees, provision additional bandwidth / connections. And naturally - this will all go off without a hitch. Like flipping a switch.
And we need to remember that many of these services rely on each other so one goes down: they take each other out.
That entirely depends on who deeply they've locked themselves into a single-vendor set of services. If they used an abstraction tool to hide vendor-specific implementation detail, and were moderately smart, it'd take little besides minor config changes, redeployment and some regression testing.
Source: I've done it.
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But you love teams right?! (get the gas can - I'll get the matches)
I love to wish it on my worst enemies.
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This in combination with deregulating the single market and allowing EU tech startup to thrive would finally give birth to real competitors on our content.
GoEU
Pardon my ignorance but what does deregulating the single Market mean?
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little choice for amazon the logistic company
Depends on where you live. Here in Germany we have a few alternatives, like "Otto" and a few others with specialisations like electronics. Some of them have a marketplace just like Amazon and they even offer the same cheap chinese crap that Amazon has to offer. So you could feel right at home.
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Should be two pronged - tariffs on cloud and other services while fostering competitive local alternatives. While it's possible knock up a cloud out of anything there is nothing in Europe as coherent as the offerings by Amazon, Google or Microsoft. And there should be.
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A slap on the wrist for two of the tech giants is great progress. I would consider this a start, but not done yet.
The linked article supports this as well:
Tove Maria Ryding from the European Network on Debt and Development, an association of trade unions and non-governmental organisations, welcomed the ECJ's decision but stressed "our tax problem is more than just one rotten apple".
She said the case addressed tax matters dating back over 20 years and was "a perfect illustration of the chaotic corporate tax system we have".
“What we urgently need is a fundamental reform that can give us a tax system that is fair, effective, transparent and predictable," she said.
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Show this to Varoufakis.
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You are talking about phones made by Google. I am talking about ALL the phones using Android and how difficult or sometimes impossible it is to use anything but Android.
That's not what you were saying. You were explicitly talking about Google. Also, implying it is Google's fault that other manufacturers don't let you install other operating systems easily is pretty bizarre. If you want to complain about that, at least complain about the right companies. Those are usually the phone manufacturers and/or the SoC manufacturers. The SoC manufacturers often times are particularily problematic, since they often do not publish open source drivers at all or in a very limited fashion.
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I believe this is how we can cripple the US.
I just switched my services over and there are some great alternatives, we have just been pre-programmed to use the American default brands.
Adobe, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon all easy to replace.
The only challenging one so far is YouTube, content is just lacking elsewhere, but atleast with adblockers YouTube isn't getting my money.
Depending on what content you watch, Nebula might be a good choice.
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This in combination with deregulating the single market and allowing EU tech startup to thrive would finally give birth to real competitors on our content.
GoEU
deregulating
Nope. Nope-nopety-nope, leave this american bullshit where it belongs.
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For now it’s a lot of mights and very few dids.
Just make companies that are that huge to pay higher taxes to operate in the EU. It’s not a tariff is contributing their fair share to the social network of the EU. And ffs, reign in any country allowing these companies to operate in tax havens in the EU -
I don't disagree, however, there needs to be some form of security so the average Joe (or their kid) doesn't accidentally press the wrong button and
rm -rfthe entire device (exaggerating of course, but you get the idea).my apologies, I was actually thinking of "unlocking the bootloader", rooting a device without an unlocked bootloader didn't even occur to me. And since unlocking a bootloader is non-trivial by design, that would prevent any such accidents.
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Pardon my ignorance but what does deregulating the single Market mean?
There is a big push from EU at the moment to reduce "red tape" to make it easier for business, see for example mastodon post from EC a few hours ago:
https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/114280068967975617 -
Aren't drop shippers finished with the recent tariffs, especially closing the loophole of de minimis?
For you guys. Amazon canada will still be infested with them, for instance. Also that's assuming the dropshippers don't just reroute their stuff to whoever has the lowest tariffs before delivering it here, like how lindt is moving all it's delivery back into Europe so that they can go around the US to deliver to places like Canada.
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Which is nowhere comparable to infecting your stuff with malware...
Which is a thing that's happened on Steam twice this month thanks to update loopholes and some outbound link fuckery. Also anti-cheat is kernel level, which is why you can't play a lot of multiplayer games on Linux, but you don't see a lot of PC games forgoing it because the alternative is being unplayable. Turns out some idiot Sony music exec (which is literally a separate company from Sony interactive) was ahead of the curve on the new normal, much as I also hate it lol
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Amazon is barely a thing here in Sweden. It’s niche drop shipped garbage for the most part, very similar to Wish and the like.
They have some non-garbage stuff at the same price you find elsewhere.
They also don’t do logistics here. Utterly useless company.
Yeah they pulled out of QC so if I wasn't so close to Ontario they'd be completely useless for me in canada too. Not that I haven't avoided them for big purchases like computer stuff already, gonna have to look what general marketplaces we have otherwise lol
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Me too. A good written guide is always way more effective. There rare today though
Shout-out to Gamers Nexus for making a written site for all their content https://gamersnexus.net/ tho i recognize that's not very helpful for avoiding American lol
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That entirely depends on who deeply they've locked themselves into a single-vendor set of services. If they used an abstraction tool to hide vendor-specific implementation detail, and were moderately smart, it'd take little besides minor config changes, redeployment and some regression testing.
Source: I've done it.
were moderately smart
This is mostly the problem in a lot of cases. A lot of companies don't pay you to be smart... they pay you to be "efficient" which normally means cheap.
Good and skilled people may be in a lot of these companies... but their hands may be tied in terms of choices.
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inertia is a thing, but just by having new EU projects avoid the big three you'd already have done a world of good to the IT ecosystem.
100%
Germany is providing an open source solution to gsuite (which I haven't looked at yet) but am told it's pretty good. More open and more choice is great.
