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Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet

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  • J [email protected]

    No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

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    It's the Internet. There are internets, but just one Internet.

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    • I [email protected]

      No one needs the internet outside of work.

      As someone with a disability (and no car), the internet has played a massive role in allowing me to live independently, which in turn has a profoundly positive impact on my mental health. There are a wide variety of circumstances in which the internet has enhanced life experience - let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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      I'm sorry. I suppose I should have said "I don't need the internet outside of work."

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      • J [email protected]

        No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

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        For some people "the whole internet" is like half a dozen websites.

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        • J [email protected]

          For what ? Opposing pedos.

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          For the csam on your hard drive you projecting freak

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          • mystvalkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

            I'm sorry. I suppose I should have said "I don't need the internet outside of work."

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            All good! There's probably far more people in your boat than mine; it was a pretty natural conclusion to draw πŸ™‚

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              I've read what seems like 30+ articles and explainers about the UK law the last few days - this has some lousy (official) defintions. I think the most recent episode of Power User with Taylor Lorenz might cover some of this enough to get the overall sense.

              The topics under scrutiny of the "user-to-user" site is extremely vague beyond obvious porn, but it amounts to if it allows the sharing of links of basic news of any topic, it counts. Because in terms of categorizing "harmful content" for minors, seeing fucking protests happening anywhere, at all is "controversial adult content." But if the links are limited to a very specific topic, say Honda Ridgeline owners, privacy and cyber nerd shit no one cares about) etc., cooking, and other innocuous things, it's a grey zone that doesn't demand compliance. YMMV, but even for a fascist wannabe set of policies can't justify "harmful" material for kids with a Linux forum or a forum for owners of the Honda Ridgeline (WTF?)

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              ok but my point is that if someone posts a protest article link to the honda forum, then, as I understand, the forum will become legally liable for that too. so if the forum guarantee that the link won't even get publicly visible for a second, that's when they don't need to do age verification

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                For the csam on your hard drive you projecting freak

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                I was Today years old when I found out what that abbreviation means. The fact that you know it so well is alarming Sam

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                  What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.

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                  • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                    For some people "the whole internet" is like half a dozen websites.

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                    I worked in tech support. For some people Facebook is the internet

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                    • W [email protected]

                      ok but my point is that if someone posts a protest article link to the honda forum, then, as I understand, the forum will become legally liable for that too. so if the forum guarantee that the link won't even get publicly visible for a second, that's when they don't need to do age verification

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                      Forums have mods and admins. As long as they don't allow a topic habitually then, per my understanding for the UK law right now, that would make it exempt.

                      Compliance with the ID law is actually quite expensive if you contract Persona as the ID checker. If 1 user of a site not based in tje UK or about UK things posting 1 news article a mod deletes in 10 minutes is enough to trigger a $50,000 compliance contact, then it's enough to be amazing standing for an easily won lawsuit about burdens on small business.

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                        Yeah, probably not.

                        What a failure of an idea.

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                          I stopped using my hdmi adapter because it wasn't looking as good as the component video. You got the 1920 to work? What version of OPL do you have? I might have to try it again!

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                          • J [email protected]

                            Ask yourself why you are so triggered when I call you a chomo do some introspection

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                              Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Corporate Internet

                              There, FTFY

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                                It is so complicated that you're both correct and incorrect. US government added to it, yes. I'd argue the fundamental work was independent researchers from multiple countries (UK, USA, France). I'd argue the critical infrastructure was multiple non-profits.

                                Also the question is "what exactly is the beginning of the internet". Is it usenet? Telnet? Arpanet?

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                                Didn't it all start at DARPA?

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                                • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

                                  Does anyone vaguely remember those internet licenses from that Star Trek DS9 episode when they went back in time but it was the near future from the 80s perspective meaning that it's actually today?

                                  We're going to have internet licenses soon

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                                  We’re going to have internet licenses soon

                                  They're called contracts with your ISP, they've been around for a while now.

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                                  • I [email protected]

                                    Lemmy is still very centralized,
                                    sure there are many servers
                                    and that takes care of the /u/spez problem
                                    but very little else, most topic generally have one big community
                                    and it's on the one big server

                                    You can go elsewhere, if you like speaking into the void and nobody even hearing you.

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                                    one big community and it’s on the one big server

                                    Which you can follow from another server, what's your point?

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                                      All it takes is one snapshot of legislator's IDs put online to poke a hole into this balloon.

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                                      Back when the govt here started incentivizing people to ask for receipts the Prime Minister's fiscal ID was made public and the fucker starting having a lot of receipts in his name.

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                                        What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.

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                                        They're making it so that vigilante justice is the only form of justice the ruling class can receive.

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                                        • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

                                          decentralized apps, fediverse

                                          Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There's nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there's nothing stopping them from "harmonizing" identity verification restrictions among other countries. They've already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

                                          This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn't new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and it's why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

                                          It's generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

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                                          Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time.

                                          Time to self-host your own instances. Sites like yunohost try to make it easy.

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