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    Yeah, probably not.

    What a failure of an idea.

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      I stopped using my hdmi adapter because it wasn't looking as good as the component video. You got the 1920 to work? What version of OPL do you have? I might have to try it again!

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        Ask yourself why you are so triggered when I call you a chomo do some introspection

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          Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Corporate Internet

          There, FTFY

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            It is so complicated that you're both correct and incorrect. US government added to it, yes. I'd argue the fundamental work was independent researchers from multiple countries (UK, USA, France). I'd argue the critical infrastructure was multiple non-profits.

            Also the question is "what exactly is the beginning of the internet". Is it usenet? Telnet? Arpanet?

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            Didn't it all start at DARPA?

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            • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

              Does anyone vaguely remember those internet licenses from that Star Trek DS9 episode when they went back in time but it was the near future from the 80s perspective meaning that it's actually today?

              We're going to have internet licenses soon

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              We’re going to have internet licenses soon

              They're called contracts with your ISP, they've been around for a while now.

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              • I [email protected]

                Lemmy is still very centralized,
                sure there are many servers
                and that takes care of the /u/spez problem
                but very little else, most topic generally have one big community
                and it's on the one big server

                You can go elsewhere, if you like speaking into the void and nobody even hearing you.

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                one big community and it’s on the one big server

                Which you can follow from another server, what's your point?

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                  All it takes is one snapshot of legislator's IDs put online to poke a hole into this balloon.

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                  Back when the govt here started incentivizing people to ask for receipts the Prime Minister's fiscal ID was made public and the fucker starting having a lot of receipts in his name.

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                    What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.

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                    They're making it so that vigilante justice is the only form of justice the ruling class can receive.

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                    • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

                      decentralized apps, fediverse

                      Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There's nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there's nothing stopping them from "harmonizing" identity verification restrictions among other countries. They've already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

                      This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn't new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and it's why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

                      It's generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

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                      Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time.

                      Time to self-host your own instances. Sites like yunohost try to make it easy.

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                      • darkdarkhouse@lemmy.sdf.orgD [email protected]

                        Get your coat, we’re leaving.

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                        The ruling class is eager to make it so the only way to fight back against them is with bullets.

                        They don't know what they're in for.

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                          What do you mean by that? Most of the infrastructure that makes up the internet is owned by like 6 companies.

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                          infrastructure that makes up the internet is owned by like 6 companies.

                          GAFAM holds a large chunk of social media HTTP/S traffic, plus cloud crap. That's all application layer.
                          Do they own main trunk IP routers too?

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                            It is so complicated that you're both correct and incorrect. US government added to it, yes. I'd argue the fundamental work was independent researchers from multiple countries (UK, USA, France). I'd argue the critical infrastructure was multiple non-profits.

                            Also the question is "what exactly is the beginning of the internet". Is it usenet? Telnet? Arpanet?

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                            Nope. The US government Department of Defense literally funded and created the internet. It was initially called Arpanet and was mainly US government sites. This is why few people use the .us domain. Because the initial domains .gov, .mil, .org etc were all USA sites. Usenet is independent and does not require the internet and telnet is simply one program using the internet. Most of the core TCP/IP technology was created and funded by DOD also although it is possible some of it was pre-existing.

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                            • dozzi92@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              I assumed they meant aliens.

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                              Illegal aliens.

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                              • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                                Yeah, it's all relative. It's like the www before corporate takeover. Like the old www, you need to have some sense on where to go and where to avoid.

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                                before corporate takeover.

                                The good old days, yes.

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                                  Whats up with gemini lately? Havent seen anything about it since before covid

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                                  Them pods are a gigantic rabbit hole. A hare hole if you will.

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                                    It’s about the information vacuum. Now every service will get your ID or photo, giving them both age and a whole sort of other metrics to build a profile on you. And yes, Lemmy.ca doesn’t know that about me.

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                                    every service will get your ID or photo

                                    To be fair, that's not how it will work. The site and the identity verifier will be two different things, the verifier only attests that you are not underage and the site doesn't get your identity.

                                    Still harmful though, because you can be sure that there will be scamsites redirecting people to fake but real looking verifiers for blackmail and identity theft purposes.

                                    I for one will never put my ID or photo into any age verifier ever.

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                                      infrastructure that makes up the internet is owned by like 6 companies.

                                      GAFAM holds a large chunk of social media HTTP/S traffic, plus cloud crap. That's all application layer.
                                      Do they own main trunk IP routers too?

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                                      They do wade into the IP / transport territory a bit but those are not the 6 companies I was referring to. I was thinking of Verizon / AT&T / Lumen / Zayo / etc.

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                                      • teknikal@eviltoast.orgT [email protected]

                                        I think we need to organise a massive campaign for people to cancel their entire Isp for at least a month, I'm betting all this would get reversed almost overnight.

                                        Anything but that I fear they win and we all end up on the darknet.

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                                        I work from home. If I cancel my Internet connection, I can't work.

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                                          Nope. The US government Department of Defense literally funded and created the internet. It was initially called Arpanet and was mainly US government sites. This is why few people use the .us domain. Because the initial domains .gov, .mil, .org etc were all USA sites. Usenet is independent and does not require the internet and telnet is simply one program using the internet. Most of the core TCP/IP technology was created and funded by DOD also although it is possible some of it was pre-existing.

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                                          No. The internet has so many beginnings that it is impossible to say only one group created it.

                                          The internet, like its design, is a co-operation between many different groups.

                                          It goes back even further than 1777, where the French mechanical telegraph was the first way to send long distance messages. And therefore is considered as one of the beginnings of the of the internet.

                                          Or in 1830 where Brits invented a way to send electronic messages over copper cables.

                                          Or in 1860 where they started laying sea cables to connect landmasses.

                                          It is typical that the US claims to have invented something when it is clearly a collaborative effort.

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJU-KYMREbQ

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