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  • ? Guest

    Now I only register single-use throwaways on Protonmail (despite their efforts to detect and stop it).

    That kinda sux. There are plenty of other, more suitable, services for that. I would recommend not wasting this great service for such purposes.

    comfy@lemmy.mlC This user is from outside of this forum
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    The more suitable ones are often blocked, unfortunately.

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    • B [email protected]

      That I don’t know.

      I subscribe to hers and she to mine, but we just made them the same color so the one who ads stuff first is the one that stays, if that makes sense.

      No downsides for me, really. It does what it’s supposed to do and it’s not Google.

      If your still on the fence, then I can test editing both ways tomorow. Just let me know. Had a busy day today.

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      We have different colours to help differentiate. For example if I have a dentist appointment I know it's mine as it's in my colour.

      In regards to modifying each other's calendar. If she has a car service booked in but then needs me to move it, I have the ability to modify her calendar to move it to another date.

      I'd like to retain the same ability.

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      • M [email protected]

        I'm getting ready to move off of Google (and Private Internet Access), and Proton is looking like the best option. But I'm nervous. Some of the things I worry about:

        • Calendar support: I rely really heavily on Google Calendar. How will I share events with others? And what will I do without Google Tasks?
        • VPN App Quality: Seeing some mixed reviews on Proton VPN Android app.
        • Proton ethics & politics: Look, I really don't want to open up the holy war here. My big stipulation is: I don't want my money to go to a company that will donate its money or services to fascists. To my knowledge, Proton does not do that. I know they made a post that seemed to praise GOP antitrust efforts. I do not believe that that is the same thing as lending material support for fascists. (And, as someone who is very well read-in on antitrust issues, I'll say that -- for a lot of complicated reasons -- there is some truth to Proton's post, but I wish they had framed it as a critique of the corporate wing of the Democratic party and not praise of the GOP.)
        • Anything else I haven't thought to ask.

        So, folks who have made the switch: What do you wish you had known? What do you wish you had done to make the move easier?

        Thank you for your advice.

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        #63

        Mail search is SO BAD - on EVERY DEVICE I make a database on.

        I really wish I'd known that before I moved like 15 years of Gmail (and other accounts) over!

        SO BAD. smh.

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        • ? Guest

          Get a custom domain so that your new email address isn't tied to Proton. If Proton goes to shit it will be much easier to just take [email protected] with you to your new email provider. I wish I had done this with Gmail so that it would've been easier to move to Proton.

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          As someone with a tuta.io email address who might have to switch in the future because of .io potentially going away... Good tip. I needed it 3 years ago.

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          • float@startrek.websiteF [email protected]

            As someone with a tuta.io email address who might have to switch in the future because of .io potentially going away... Good tip. I needed it 3 years ago.

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            Oof. Didn’t know that was the case. That’s rough.

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            • B [email protected]

              You can always manually share .ics files in emails to share calendar events. I've never used Proton, but I'd be shocked if their calendar can't ics export. I think that's literally how Outlook actually implements that, so it should "just work."

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              Having to manually share ICS was a bridge too far for me. Especially if event details get updated.

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              • M [email protected]

                I'm getting ready to move off of Google (and Private Internet Access), and Proton is looking like the best option. But I'm nervous. Some of the things I worry about:

                • Calendar support: I rely really heavily on Google Calendar. How will I share events with others? And what will I do without Google Tasks?
                • VPN App Quality: Seeing some mixed reviews on Proton VPN Android app.
                • Proton ethics & politics: Look, I really don't want to open up the holy war here. My big stipulation is: I don't want my money to go to a company that will donate its money or services to fascists. To my knowledge, Proton does not do that. I know they made a post that seemed to praise GOP antitrust efforts. I do not believe that that is the same thing as lending material support for fascists. (And, as someone who is very well read-in on antitrust issues, I'll say that -- for a lot of complicated reasons -- there is some truth to Proton's post, but I wish they had framed it as a critique of the corporate wing of the Democratic party and not praise of the GOP.)
                • Anything else I haven't thought to ask.

                So, folks who have made the switch: What do you wish you had known? What do you wish you had done to make the move easier?

                Thank you for your advice.

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                #67

                I thought it was not Proton who praised the GOP, but their CEO on his personal social media. It sounds like you are saying there is truth to the post -- is it wrong to praise one's opponents for doing something right? Is it not our inability to agree with our opponents even in the instances where we're aligned with their objective that causes so much political gridlock?

                I'm not going to pretend Hitler was a bad painter just because he was fucking evil. I'll admit though -- I wouldn't want to have anything he painted in my home, even if I liked it.

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                • M [email protected]

                  I'm getting ready to move off of Google (and Private Internet Access), and Proton is looking like the best option. But I'm nervous. Some of the things I worry about:

                  • Calendar support: I rely really heavily on Google Calendar. How will I share events with others? And what will I do without Google Tasks?
                  • VPN App Quality: Seeing some mixed reviews on Proton VPN Android app.
                  • Proton ethics & politics: Look, I really don't want to open up the holy war here. My big stipulation is: I don't want my money to go to a company that will donate its money or services to fascists. To my knowledge, Proton does not do that. I know they made a post that seemed to praise GOP antitrust efforts. I do not believe that that is the same thing as lending material support for fascists. (And, as someone who is very well read-in on antitrust issues, I'll say that -- for a lot of complicated reasons -- there is some truth to Proton's post, but I wish they had framed it as a critique of the corporate wing of the Democratic party and not praise of the GOP.)
                  • Anything else I haven't thought to ask.

                  So, folks who have made the switch: What do you wish you had known? What do you wish you had done to make the move easier?

                  Thank you for your advice.

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                  #68

                  Can we for all that is good get more Linux support? there isn't any proton drive application for Linux. The excuse? Not enough available linux devs.

                  I dont have the numbers but who does proton think a good chunk of their customer base is or can be? People who use Linux because they value their privacy.

                  Its mind boggling.

                  Its 'coming, ' whatever that means.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    I'm getting ready to move off of Google (and Private Internet Access), and Proton is looking like the best option. But I'm nervous. Some of the things I worry about:

                    • Calendar support: I rely really heavily on Google Calendar. How will I share events with others? And what will I do without Google Tasks?
                    • VPN App Quality: Seeing some mixed reviews on Proton VPN Android app.
                    • Proton ethics & politics: Look, I really don't want to open up the holy war here. My big stipulation is: I don't want my money to go to a company that will donate its money or services to fascists. To my knowledge, Proton does not do that. I know they made a post that seemed to praise GOP antitrust efforts. I do not believe that that is the same thing as lending material support for fascists. (And, as someone who is very well read-in on antitrust issues, I'll say that -- for a lot of complicated reasons -- there is some truth to Proton's post, but I wish they had framed it as a critique of the corporate wing of the Democratic party and not praise of the GOP.)
                    • Anything else I haven't thought to ask.

                    So, folks who have made the switch: What do you wish you had known? What do you wish you had done to make the move easier?

                    Thank you for your advice.

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                    honestly i would recommend keeping google calendar. proton calendar just wasn’t cutting it for me so the only google app i still require is calendar

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                    • M [email protected]

                      I'm getting ready to move off of Google (and Private Internet Access), and Proton is looking like the best option. But I'm nervous. Some of the things I worry about:

                      • Calendar support: I rely really heavily on Google Calendar. How will I share events with others? And what will I do without Google Tasks?
                      • VPN App Quality: Seeing some mixed reviews on Proton VPN Android app.
                      • Proton ethics & politics: Look, I really don't want to open up the holy war here. My big stipulation is: I don't want my money to go to a company that will donate its money or services to fascists. To my knowledge, Proton does not do that. I know they made a post that seemed to praise GOP antitrust efforts. I do not believe that that is the same thing as lending material support for fascists. (And, as someone who is very well read-in on antitrust issues, I'll say that -- for a lot of complicated reasons -- there is some truth to Proton's post, but I wish they had framed it as a critique of the corporate wing of the Democratic party and not praise of the GOP.)
                      • Anything else I haven't thought to ask.

                      So, folks who have made the switch: What do you wish you had known? What do you wish you had done to make the move easier?

                      Thank you for your advice.

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                      Went from google to proton, proton to tuta after the fascist supporting comments of the proton CEO. I wish I hadn't gotten involved with proton. There are better options for everything proton does and it's not a good idea to be tied to the same company for everything.

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                      • ? Guest

                        Get a custom domain so that your new email address isn't tied to Proton. If Proton goes to shit it will be much easier to just take [email protected] with you to your new email provider. I wish I had done this with Gmail so that it would've been easier to move to Proton.

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                        Mail@name is so much better than mine first@fullname.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          I'm getting ready to move off of Google (and Private Internet Access), and Proton is looking like the best option. But I'm nervous. Some of the things I worry about:

                          • Calendar support: I rely really heavily on Google Calendar. How will I share events with others? And what will I do without Google Tasks?
                          • VPN App Quality: Seeing some mixed reviews on Proton VPN Android app.
                          • Proton ethics & politics: Look, I really don't want to open up the holy war here. My big stipulation is: I don't want my money to go to a company that will donate its money or services to fascists. To my knowledge, Proton does not do that. I know they made a post that seemed to praise GOP antitrust efforts. I do not believe that that is the same thing as lending material support for fascists. (And, as someone who is very well read-in on antitrust issues, I'll say that -- for a lot of complicated reasons -- there is some truth to Proton's post, but I wish they had framed it as a critique of the corporate wing of the Democratic party and not praise of the GOP.)
                          • Anything else I haven't thought to ask.

                          So, folks who have made the switch: What do you wish you had known? What do you wish you had done to make the move easier?

                          Thank you for your advice.

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                          It costs money to be worth a darn.

                          Anything Proton costs money to be worth a darn.

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                          • ? Guest

                            I guess you're right. I should've said that SimpleLogin Premium is included.

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                            No worries. Like I said, I recognize it's a nitpick so not a huge deal. I just thought I'd mention it. It doesn't invalidate your original comment or anything. 🙂

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                              Get a custom domain so that your new email address isn't tied to Proton. If Proton goes to shit it will be much easier to just take [email protected] with you to your new email provider. I wish I had done this with Gmail so that it would've been easier to move to Proton.

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                              100% this! Proton pass is convenient, but their email forwarding locks you into their ecosystem, and they limit your aliasing for your own custom domain. I started using it, and its nice, but I wish I knew about annonaddy before. I'd prefer making aliases using a custom domain so if i have to respond with a forwarded alias I can manage a way to reply from it, plus if I ever decide to leave proton, its not a road block. Sure you can usually change email addresses on sites, but may end up being a ton of work depending how many aliases you have, and how annoying the site makes it.

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                                I thought it was not Proton who praised the GOP, but their CEO on his personal social media. It sounds like you are saying there is truth to the post -- is it wrong to praise one's opponents for doing something right? Is it not our inability to agree with our opponents even in the instances where we're aligned with their objective that causes so much political gridlock?

                                I'm not going to pretend Hitler was a bad painter just because he was fucking evil. I'll admit though -- I wouldn't want to have anything he painted in my home, even if I liked it.

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                                Andy Yen's messages were echoed and doubled-down on by official Proton accounts.

                                The truth to the posts made are the critiques of the Democratic party, not their praise of the republican party. If their posts consisted only of the former, there would be nothing to argue with. But their statements included the unhinged notion that Republicans are somehow antitrust and will fight monopolies.

                                I would say it is wrong to praise an opponent for doing something right when the only basis for it is that one of their opponents is also fucking up. The fact that democrats are controlled by money has no bearing on whether or not Republicans are.

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                                  Andy Yen's messages were echoed and doubled-down on by official Proton accounts.

                                  The truth to the posts made are the critiques of the Democratic party, not their praise of the republican party. If their posts consisted only of the former, there would be nothing to argue with. But their statements included the unhinged notion that Republicans are somehow antitrust and will fight monopolies.

                                  I would say it is wrong to praise an opponent for doing something right when the only basis for it is that one of their opponents is also fucking up. The fact that democrats are controlled by money has no bearing on whether or not Republicans are.

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                                  Thank you for explaining this. I didn't know.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    100% this! Proton pass is convenient, but their email forwarding locks you into their ecosystem, and they limit your aliasing for your own custom domain. I started using it, and its nice, but I wish I knew about annonaddy before. I'd prefer making aliases using a custom domain so if i have to respond with a forwarded alias I can manage a way to reply from it, plus if I ever decide to leave proton, its not a road block. Sure you can usually change email addresses on sites, but may end up being a ton of work depending how many aliases you have, and how annoying the site makes it.

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                                    Appantly proton pass does have a custom domain function I was unaware of until now. Looks like you have to go into settings > aliases. There is an 'add custom domain' button, assuming you need the domain added to your proton account with a catchall address maybe?

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      I'm getting ready to move off of Google (and Private Internet Access), and Proton is looking like the best option. But I'm nervous. Some of the things I worry about:

                                      • Calendar support: I rely really heavily on Google Calendar. How will I share events with others? And what will I do without Google Tasks?
                                      • VPN App Quality: Seeing some mixed reviews on Proton VPN Android app.
                                      • Proton ethics & politics: Look, I really don't want to open up the holy war here. My big stipulation is: I don't want my money to go to a company that will donate its money or services to fascists. To my knowledge, Proton does not do that. I know they made a post that seemed to praise GOP antitrust efforts. I do not believe that that is the same thing as lending material support for fascists. (And, as someone who is very well read-in on antitrust issues, I'll say that -- for a lot of complicated reasons -- there is some truth to Proton's post, but I wish they had framed it as a critique of the corporate wing of the Democratic party and not praise of the GOP.)
                                      • Anything else I haven't thought to ask.

                                      So, folks who have made the switch: What do you wish you had known? What do you wish you had done to make the move easier?

                                      Thank you for your advice.

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                                      Dont delete the gmail. As much as I want to move on...i still remember the occassional account tied to my gmail, and Im so, so thankful I can still get whatever notification, reset password, etc. I dont know when I'll feel comfortable deleting it. As long as Im getting emails, I can at least use it to reference what accounts still need to be moved over.

                                      So despite "moving" emails I kind of just added one. But not a big deal, and the safety net is nice.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        I looked to see if I could get by replacing Photos with Drive in Proton. Whilst I can upload stuff. Videos greater than 100mb need to be downloaded to be watched. I guess because Google process videos to allow them to be streamed. Sadly a deal breaker for me 😞

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                                        I can't remember the video info for ente, but you might check that out for photo and video backup.

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                                          I can't remember the video info for ente, but you might check that out for photo and video backup.

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                                          Yeah. I have a free account I used for testing. I need to give it another go really. I liked it but it is still not a patch on Google Photos in terms of usability for viewing or finding photos.

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