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Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK Amid Government Backdoor Demands

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  • steve@communick.newsS [email protected]

    I don't doubt that. But its still a large stretch, to think the UK passed a law applying to all UK citizens, specifically to give the US access to a few thousand dual citizens.

    I'm thinking LoudWaterHombre was right. You simply have an extremely US centric mindset.

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    Apple is a US based company. For them to just roll over sets a bad precedent, especially for our fascists who are now running the show here.

    What’s to stop the US government from going after the same services here? What’s about Tor or VPN services?

    The authoritarians will smell blood in the water after this. Since the big player just gave up, who will stand in their way?

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    • jumuta@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

      tbh if the government demanded fediverse servers do this then they'll probably comply as well, I really don't think this is apple's fault as much as i hate them and every similar tech megacorps

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      Bur what about servers that are not based in the UK? They are not officiallly doing business there, they just happen to be accessoble from there. And with Fediverse, you can specifically choose a server that suits your jurisdiction needs.

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        No, the only thing I wish would center around the US is an asteroid. I absolutely hate it here, but I don’t have the means to leave.

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        Hey Buddy, this article is about UK and you argue for it to be about the US. Clearly the UK did not pass a law to bend over for your orange overlord.

        This whole discussion is bonkers.

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          Can governments stop micromanaging things they don’t understand? All they will achieve is inconvenience for people. Anybody who can potentially be targeted such as journalists, criminals, politicians know their attack vector. It’s not 90s when nobody knew shit about computers. Just encrypt on device and upload anywhere. No government will be able to decrypt as long as you are using robust algorithm.

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            Apple is a US based company. For them to just roll over sets a bad precedent, especially for our fascists who are now running the show here.

            What’s to stop the US government from going after the same services here? What’s about Tor or VPN services?

            The authoritarians will smell blood in the water after this. Since the big player just gave up, who will stand in their way?

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            Now you're moving the goal post, and pointing to a slippery slope, still trying to justify your original misunderstanding. It's alright to be wrong sometimes.

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            • engineergaming@feddit.nlE [email protected]

              Bur what about servers that are not based in the UK? They are not officiallly doing business there, they just happen to be accessoble from there. And with Fediverse, you can specifically choose a server that suits your jurisdiction needs.

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              that just depends on how comfortable the instance owner is, if i was hosting I'd ip block the UK

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              • jumuta@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                that just depends on how comfortable the instance owner is, if i was hosting I'd ip block the UK

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                I am IP-blocked by a lot of things. At some point a large percentage of population just gets used to the fact that VPNs/proxies are now just a mandatory part of the internet usage.

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                • jumuta@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                  that just depends on how comfortable the instance owner is, if i was hosting I'd ip block the UK

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                  There's already a few websites that block the uk (lemmy.zip is a good example, lobste.rs plans to block the uk)

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                  • loudwaterenjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                    Hey Buddy, this article is about UK and you argue for it to be about the US. Clearly the UK did not pass a law to bend over for your orange overlord.

                    This whole discussion is bonkers.

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                    My government is now basically a fascist regime. Musk is going to see this and demand that Apple do the same.

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                    • steve@communick.newsS [email protected]

                      Now you're moving the goal post, and pointing to a slippery slope, still trying to justify your original misunderstanding. It's alright to be wrong sometimes.

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                      I hope I am wrong, but we’re now essentially being run by an unelected oligarch. Authoritarian regimes like the US will see it and demand the same for here.

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                        I hope I am wrong, but we’re now essentially being run by an unelected oligarch. Authoritarian regimes like the US will see it and demand the same for here.

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                        Total non sequitur. You're way off topic now.

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                        • steve@communick.newsS [email protected]

                          Total non sequitur. You're way off topic now.

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                          I don’t know. Having a family member with dual citizenship gives me a good comparison between the US and the UK. Both of our governments are getting very Orwellian.

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                            This is an indicator that every other company staying in the UK is complying with backdoor demands.

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                              F*ck Britannia, Britannia don’t rule our lives. We never shall be slaves. God save encryption.

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