GNOME Software May Eventually Drop RPM Support In Favor Of Flatpaks
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It doesn't use pkgkit like Discover? wtf?
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Please don't. I like having options, sometimes RPMs are useful, sometimes Flatpaks are useful. Let me choose.
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I mean this seems reasonable especially with how quickly flatpaks are becoming so common.
I'm sure this wouldn't happen for a very long time though
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They have different purposes. While I do use flatpak whenever possible there are some things that need to integrate more closely with the OS and the sandbox makes the tool or service useless.
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It does. This discussion is about Fedora where packagekit works with dnf and RPMs.
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You can still install RPMs through dnf. There is also dnfdragora AFAIK. Packagekit (cross-distro API and daemon that abstracts package managers like dnf and apt) is a pile of crap anyway, and is a source of many GNOME Software's issues.
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Using RPMs through a frontend like Discover or Gnome Software can sometimes have unintended side effects that are much more easily anticipated when using dnf.
Just the other day, I uninstalled something through Gnome Software that was an RPM, and it also removed fuse-fs packages, breaking all of my appimage stuff until I manually installed fuse again.
This doesn't ever happen with Flatpak in my experience, though I could just be lucky. It makes some sense to limit the destruction potential for less technical frontend installers like Gnome Software and leave the RPMs to something else like dnf. Though, I do really enjoy being able to open a manually downloaded RPM in a nice GUI to install it.
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Distros are still free to make their own RPM packages, they can't go around the GPL there.
But having official flatpak release makes it very easy to update to the latest versions regardless of your distro.
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Exactly this. Kde's graphical application store actually has a warning on arch, since pacman can be even more problematic when it comes to abstraction layers like GUI's.
At this point, rpm's and deb packages can be auto updated through their relevant package managers. And it looks like gnome software is attempting to try to get user packages installed via flatpak entirely.
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That's just plain dumb. I usually don't install rpm packages with the store but I frequently update my system from it. If they remove rpm support then they remove a huge ease of use feature.
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Unpopular opinion: that's fucking stupid. I personally will never use flatpaks.
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Ok, enjoy
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Really? Why not?
I find them incredibly useful for some applications.
For some development stuff, though, I still prefer to use the installed version.
So VS Code, for example, I have that installed.
The flat pack just does not work as well.
But Podman Desktop, which is a flat pack, is just excellent.
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That is fucking stupid, but mostly because why on Earth should you drop a valid package?
Flatpaks are IMO good and are a great option for a casual user who doesn't want to accidentally screw up their system. Fully packed isolated dependencies, permission systems and other features make them great in many ways.
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Ok here is a bit of a rant
Fr, Especially on Arch based distros where the Aur (which is wayy better) exists + I don't use gnome I use Cinnamon(Gnome done right) -
Then gnome will cease to be an option.
Fucking flatpaks.
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But why? It's job is to install software, why make it worse by supporting less package formats?
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great way to make people detest gnome and flatpaks for the rest of their lives! brilliant move!
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Then they run system updates via cronjob and Gnome-Software is for flatpak only.
