Imagine spending 700 billions in useful things and not to fight a proxy war against russia.

Anyone downvoting should pack his bags and join the front because ukraine is running out of men

Oh, the irony. You’re here, cheerleading for conscription from the comfort of your keyboard, while accusing others of armchair opinions. If Ukraine’s running out of men, maybe it’s time to question why this proxy war keeps demanding human sacrifices instead of solutions.

Blind allegiance to this endless cycle of funding and fighting doesn’t make you noble—it makes you complicit. Pack your own bags if you’re so invested, but don’t expect others to march for a game they didn’t sign up to play.

Don't forget to save some for the war against America.

Lemmy feels increasingly filled with AI bots pushing pro-Russian anti EU narratives.

Production isn't were it's supposed to be because there hasn't yet been enough time to build more production capacity hardware (factories, specialist workers, logistical systems etc...). It's unfortunate right now, the US has already all that.

we're pinched for energy and dependent on the US for it unless we diversify our imports (russia) or produce our own (nuclear). Particularly for the production of steel.

Whats even harder to fix is the brain-drain with most academics leaving for US or China where the major research is happening

Yeah, imagine ignoring the aggressor next to you in order to by nice things.

Well, Ukraine quite recently rejected Trump's neocolonial proposal.

Which, for some reason, Biden has forgotten to even send ...so maybe part of the US doesn't really want that kind of stuff. ¹

...and well, the title describes European countries rushing to turn the page on Trump - assemble about three times the resources the US has thrown in, worth about six or seven Russian defense budgets.

¹ IMHO, it's just that the US has so much power invested in one damn person and an electoral system that prevents diversity. Which is tragic.

Also interesting that they seem to not reply to any thing that might require a real discussion.

Yeah! Down with democracy! Bring back feudalism!

I think democracy is a good thing, therefore I should join the Ukrainian military?

Kyiv in three days!

we’re pinched for energy and dependent on the US for it unless we diversify our imports (russia) or produce our own (nuclear)

From what I heard, the EU is replacing Russian energy dependency with imports from the US and Norway, and I'm sure there would be other options if we cut off the US as well. Also, plenty of European countries have nuclear plants, and some are building more (UK) and well as increasing renewable production.

Whats even harder to fix is the brain-drain with most academics leaving for US

From what I've been hearing, academia in the US is kinda fucked - probably even more now with ~Republicans~ Nazis in charge - so I'd need a source for that. In fact, in the last few months, by YouTube keeps recommending me videos of (American) people talking about why they left academia.

Says the pro russian

It's not just nice things, but useful ones.

There are people living in poverty that could be brought out of it with this money. Instead it's being used to kill each other.

I am sure the russian/US/whoever will really like all those useful things. Those people in poverty will really do well under the aggressors rule. After all they will be all given a job (disposable soldier, baby machine, etc.) and when they die their family might even get a lada.

And if Putin could calm the fuck down then we could.

Would have needed to start saving 50 years ago for that

True: they could get decent income in a weapons factory.