Dead reddit theory
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Answers no questions, half-quotes a statement to make a point, completely ignores getting caught using AI to write your comment then edits out the giveaway. Alright mate go ahead you're doing a great job out here.
All your questions sounded rhetorical to me. I responded to what I had something to respond with.
caught
hahahahahahaha
edits
Are you OK? I haven't edited any of my comments on here. Is the AI in the room with you now?
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Can I just say, without invalidating your underlying concerns, that this place truly gets better when you start blocking communities and individuals, and doing so knee-jerk if necessary with no thought or remorse.
The tip of the identity iceberg doesn't need to come into play, really. I've learned that in this world there are contributors and detractors. There are those who add, and those who take. There are good faith contributors, and there are misanthropes who aren't happy until everybody else isn't happy.
I don't care what race or age a person is, if there's an MS article and the only thing they do is show up to vandalize the comments section with the single word Linux... I'm blocking the fuck out of 'em immediately. I block people confidently braying opinions where you need but scratch the surface to see how ill-considered they are. I feel no duty to correct these people or listen to another word, its not my job to fix them. Blocked. Show up in a legitimate policy discussion just to bash out fuck [politician]"? Blocked - dialogue at the level of a surly grade 8 student isn't my jam.
Would I want a friend IRL that just says whatever's convenient at any time, regardless of how germane, factual, useful, or genuine? Or would I avoid them IRL because they're a nightmare? That internal reflection guides a lot of my block decisions. Also why I find it so easy.
To summarize my novella, I think this is how I made my Lemmy experience more sane, because it was borderline intolerable at first. To the plus, it only took about 20 or 30 blocks to realize that almost all of the toxicity arose from a small batch of select kooks.
I fully appreciate the advice, and I have been hammering the block button, but every time I do a small part of my faith in humanity chips away like a crumbling old statue the represented a forgotten empire.
I am sad that so many people are unthinking, unfeeling, or deeply unserious where it matters. But here we are, forced to prune and further the atomization of our failed world because there is no alternative. There's no arguing nor reasoning with people who interact with others only to address their inner feelings and not with care or consideration that we share an objective reality we have to agree on.
With AI and immersive experiences, this is all going to get even worse.
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slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it's this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn't notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can't police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn't need much curation.
It absolutely was and is like that.
The thing is, when those horrible posts got boosted to the front, it just made for more drama, more "engagement" and more links being shared across other social media sites.
Reddit ignoring their responsibility to administrate wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
It's the same as what Jubilee is doing now, boosting the worst voices on both sides, making people hate each other more and giving people a distorted view of demographics in our country. It's line going up at the expense of everything we've worked the last several thousand years to build. I'm happy I was banned and will never return, I just wish more people would realize what these places are doing to us all.
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I wonder if discord shuts down due to lets say its predator problem, will this be a library of alexandria type event? Obviously wed attempt to grab as much as we can before the "library" burns down, but how? To my understanding every server owner would have to install a bot to grab all of that data themselves.
Someone please tell me im wrong and why because I hate this.
No, you're absolutely right. Discord is incredibly impermanent. Besides the lack of being able to search for things or split conversations into separate threads for every topic because it's a chat tool, not a forum, as soon as a server disappears, everything hosted on that server goes as well (as far as end users are concerned. I'm sure Discord can pull stuff from their backend).
We need a return of niche forum communities and the like for the sake of the preservation of information.
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Your account has been banned.
If you ever make another account it will be automatically banned because our app requires your fucking MAC address.
Not true. They followed me through an extra Gmail I made but made a temporary email and have been fine for close to two months.
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Random Rant:
I feel like reddit died after they banned all the "unmoderated" communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.It’s sad to see sites like Reddit and Imgur dying. They used to bring me so much joy.
At least Fark is still holding steady, although photoshop contests just aren’t as fun as they used to be.
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The auto-moderation is terrible and bans you for the dumbest stuff. Reddit has continually gone downhill the last couple years. Ad's are out of control, and they love to promote religious ads and that should be illegal.
I was permanently banned for saying Trump's health was poor and he may be dead before 2028 and wont be able to run for a third term. Banned for inciting violence...
I guess reddit really just wants a site full of bots and 50 people who post the same stuff everyday.
I wrote a very fiery letter that I'm sure a bot deleted about how it cheapened the phrase "violence" to have it be slung casually around at speech their shareholders don't love.
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That was so long ago, it's just how people in contentious communities dealt with people to save work on mods.
I know because I was involved in those apps and moderating large subs that absolute shitmouthed turds loved to ransack with brigading.
You have no idea how bad brigading was, particularly by the foul, juvenile 4chan-type crowds who would arbitrarily decide something was "pro feminist" and then flood the sub with hate posts until the mods gave up and then they would slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community.
I genuinely did not care and still do not care if it offended some people that they were pre-banned because they liked to participate in hate communities, for whatever reason. Back then you could make alts and nobody cared so what does it matter.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Read 'liked to participate' as mostly lurked in their spaces. I shouldn't have to change accounts to look over the fence. Especially if it's because you're being a lazy mod. I know my comment history. I said something like "I'm so sorry" once and that got be banned.
I shouldn't have to justify myself when I didn't break a communities rules and a community shouldn't have the right to police my content consumption when it doesn't impact that community.
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slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it's this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn't notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can't police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn't need much curation.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah. The mod infiltration by bad actors really sucked. What was it like 50 people that were basically modding entire site? Then you have unmodded communities that get banned and you can't create a new one because the other one was banned. It's like the catch-22 they use to keep communities in check.
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A week or so ago, I got permanently suspended by an auto mod. I posted some link it didn't like, I think it was this one: https://welcometothemachine.co/ which is about how all the filthy rich CEOs sit on each other's boards of directors, which is a bit ironic because this site is just a compilation of posts from one user that appeared on Reddit five years ago. I still read Reddit, but I don't care about participating.
wrote last edited by [email protected]reddit takes a much harsher stance against links now. people have to "refer to the site, rather than dropping the link.
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It absolutely was and is like that.
The thing is, when those horrible posts got boosted to the front, it just made for more drama, more "engagement" and more links being shared across other social media sites.
Reddit ignoring their responsibility to administrate wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
It's the same as what Jubilee is doing now, boosting the worst voices on both sides, making people hate each other more and giving people a distorted view of demographics in our country. It's line going up at the expense of everything we've worked the last several thousand years to build. I'm happy I was banned and will never return, I just wish more people would realize what these places are doing to us all.
They sure love to admin now. The silence of Reddit admin drove me crazy. Especially when I tried to run my own subs.
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The auto-moderation is terrible and bans you for the dumbest stuff. Reddit has continually gone downhill the last couple years. Ad's are out of control, and they love to promote religious ads and that should be illegal.
I was permanently banned for saying Trump's health was poor and he may be dead before 2028 and wont be able to run for a third term. Banned for inciting violence...
I guess reddit really just wants a site full of bots and 50 people who post the same stuff everyday.
92 people control about 500+subs on reddit, you can guess which one they are, and the ones less likely to get banned.
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So you gave up on it like a decade ago?
Pretty much. Damn...2015
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I got banned when I connected to a VPN endpoint (ProtonVPN). Instant, permanent, unappealable ban. 13-year-old account. Sole moderator of a couple subs
Probably for the best though. Screw Reddit
wrote last edited by [email protected]reddit has been coming down hard on vpn users since last year. its futile one they shadowban you, rarely i see peoples ban get lifted on the shadowban sub, apparently and pretty obvious, The user said reddit "made a mistake because thier filters were misconstruing your words for somethng offensive", i doubt reddit admins have time to look at every appeal, thats why i believe they ignore most of them, if not all accounts that are part of the multiple accounts from a single users.
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Is that what reddit looks like now??? Gross.
wrote last edited by [email protected]they want a read only site, filled with fake bots, and fake engagement. for the purpose of being read only, for advertisement, or they are planning onf selling the site down the line. the gop and musk, thiel would very much like to have control of something like reddit, especially musk, since he has triggered 2 ban waves when he complained to reddit(they were criticizing him).
ever since REDDIT went public thats whats been happening.
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You gave up on Reddit because mods can ban you for random reasons unrelated to your behavior? That's one of a small set of problems that's literally much worse and more prevalent on Lemmy.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I haven't noticed. Maybe because they don't announce it here? Still a pretty shity thing to do. It's hilarious that a platform that is supposed to be about getting around censorship is so crazy about it. Federated stuff in general. You market it as this web of free ideas but really it's everyone on their own island and if they don't like you then they put up walls to keep you out. Maybe it's from being raised in 00s internet where you were shit on for saying anything but that's dumb. Early internet you had a voice and if you said dumb things you got ignored individually or down voted by the community at large.
This tribal bullshit is what keeps us divided. You shouldn't be able to rob someone of their voice when they use it in a way you don't like.
That's how the right keeps winning people over.
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Same, also 12 years in and no history of problems. Quoted someone calling a female user a "bitch" so they couldn't edit and reported them, I got flagged and banned from the large subreddit for "using a slur." I appealed and had the pleasure of talking to a
modgrade-schooler with temper problems so the appeal was denied and as a result, somehow... for reasons that are still unclear, my entire account was then banned. Admins did not care. I made a new account and was shadowbanned immediately.I could go through the hoops and change my IP and all that fun stuff if I really want to participate on reddit.
But I don't.
even if they lifted a ban, people have reported being re-shadowbanned almost quickly anyways, because they dont clean out thier filters, after someone ban has been lifted. you only need to look at reddit wrong to get banned. new users, old accounts are not safe.
only the determined people will ban evade, have new IP address, new device, and other methods of ban evasions. those that make hundreds if not thousands of accounts to earn money from.
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It's a smaller site, as evident that your subscriptions and even the default homepage barely crawls by and there's often days with almost no new content.
Lemmy is not going to be the future of shared internet space, but it's a good Purgatory for the exiled before we all decide to start doing things outside.
lemmy largely get reddit users, if reddit started banning in large amounts again. but i think they caught on to the fact that if they do perma-site wide ban too many people will notice and they will jump ship too fast.
thats why shadowbans are much more insidious, people might not even notice right away that they were shadowbanned.
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Random Rant:
I feel like reddit died after they banned all the "unmoderated" communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.I'll admit the streaks kept me hooked to at least checking in daily. Then I got a permaban so I couldn't do streaks anymore so I stopped using the site.
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they want a read only site, filled with fake bots, and fake engagement. for the purpose of being read only, for advertisement, or they are planning onf selling the site down the line. the gop and musk, thiel would very much like to have control of something like reddit, especially musk, since he has triggered 2 ban waves when he complained to reddit(they were criticizing him).
ever since REDDIT went public thats whats been happening.
The engagement farming is reaching facebook levels.
