I am not a builder… but that does not seem right
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NEC 314.23(B) An enclosure supported from a structural member ... shall be rigidly supported either directly or by using a ... or wood brace
NEC 314.23(B)(2) ... Wood braces shall have a cross section not less than 1"x2"
This is fine. I'm not an electrician and don't know what that is securing the romex but I assume that's approved.
I mean I guess if the inspector wants they could deny it for not being "neat and workmanlike" but they'd have to really be an asshole. Like it's weird but it's not going anywhere, not like a switch is a heavy piece of equipment. This would probably even be fine for a light.
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It's okay, they're using that special load-bearing drywall.
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Wowzer trousers that's bad. There's even an outlet just to the left, what's that all about??
Buuut
A stud finder works by sticking to the drywall screws just under the wall paint. A stud finder wouldn't pick this up unless the hangers screws the drywall to that piece for no reason.
Going by the writing on the wall, it's for a 3-way dimmer switch. It also is likely the picture was taken during its install and not from someone trying to find a stud
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They're more like depth detectors now. They dont work on magnetism, they work by detecting the ultrasonic echoes of what's behind the wall.
Both kinds exist.
It is helpful to have both.
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Nah, it's been awhile, but I've been an electrician. When you get a foreman who has made it to that special level of asshole, your give a fuck starts to run out incredibly fast. Even if you're not the kind of guy who would do this yourself, someone working with you probably is.
With that said, I don't think this would pass code, but I'm honestly curious as to which part it violates specifically. The wire doesn't look like it's secured properly at least, but this might be one of those things where this is where they learn that they need to write some new passages.
Welp, I can't tell if my faith in professionals has dwindled or my confidence in my DIY skills being up to code has increased upon reading that. Probably both.
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Wowzer trousers that's bad. There's even an outlet just to the left, what's that all about??
Buuut
A stud finder works by sticking to the drywall screws just under the wall paint. A stud finder wouldn't pick this up unless the hangers screws the drywall to that piece for no reason.
On top of everything else, the new outlet isn't even close to even with the old one.
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Just gonna sister in another stud. And another. Juuust a few more.
another one
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This is some environmental storytelling right here. I see a story of an electrician, all out of appropriate lengths of wood, working past five on the night before the drywallers show up.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I had a semi related, IRL, Bethesda style enviornmental story telling 'event' involving a wall happen once.
Back in college... I wasn't actually in this one fraternity, but was friends with almost all the guys in it, was good friends with the core group that restarted its local chapter that had been dormant for like a decade or two.
So one day, its video games and beer, and ... well, this one room needed to be renovated, so we didn't give a fuck. One guy loses at Smash Bros, fucking fist through the wall.
... After he walks back a bit, we notice... wait wtf there's something... on the frame...?
We tear out more of the wall, and no shit, there is a miniature time capsule in the form of a note saying basically 'Cheers to any future (fraternity name)'s, from the class of 1982!' ... and there is also a fucking can of Rainier ... from 1982.
So the dude who initially Donkey Kong'd the wall gets dibs on the 30+ year old stale beer of course, downs it immediately.
... The funny part is that this was always supposed to have been a dry fraternity, no alcohol allowed.
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Nah, it's been awhile, but I've been an electrician. When you get a foreman who has made it to that special level of asshole, your give a fuck starts to run out incredibly fast. Even if you're not the kind of guy who would do this yourself, someone working with you probably is.
With that said, I don't think this would pass code, but I'm honestly curious as to which part it violates specifically. The wire doesn't look like it's secured properly at least, but this might be one of those things where this is where they learn that they need to write some new passages.
It's up to code until the inspector finds it. And if there's drywall, they're not finding it
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How does it end?
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To verify your stud detector works you must point it to your self, make a beeping sound, turn to your significant other and tell them "I'm a stud"
I taught my toddler to scan her mom (my wife) and say "look, I found a stud!"
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Welp, I can't tell if my faith in professionals has dwindled or my confidence in my DIY skills being up to code has increased upon reading that. Probably both.
Honestly, the requirements to become a professional in most of the trades are pretty minimal because there's a massive shortage of trained workers in basically every trade. The bar is probably the highest for electricians. I'm a refrigeration mechanic and the bar for us is basically subterranean. I've come across "professional" repairs all over the place that are just wild.
Honestly, if you're a DIYer and you're consulting building codes at all then you're probably doing better work than many (but not most) pros. That's why you should never just go with the cheapest contractor you can find for anything. They're cheap for a reason. You really need to ask around and see who is good in your area. One thing that can help is if you can find a contractor that does commercial as well as residential work. It's not 100% but generally they're going to do better work because it's a bit harder to get away with shoddy work with many commercial customers than it is with most residential customers.
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To verify your stud detector works you must point it to your self, make a beeping sound, turn to your significant other and tell them "I'm a stud"
I don’t have the willpower to not make this joke to my wife.
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How does it end?
They probably couldn't watch Netflix that time
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It's up to code until the inspector finds it. And if there's drywall, they're not finding it
This is the explanation for why we can't have nice things
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Gnomes. Gnomes live inside and use magic to tell you where the stud is. That's show it works.
Those gnomes are pretty shit at magic then. I've yet to encounter a stud finder that works more than 40% of the time which is just enough to keep you using it but not quite enough to be useful.
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To verify your stud detector works you must point it to your self, make a beeping sound, turn to your significant other and tell them "I'm a stud"
I do miss doing that to my ex-wife. There were those small things that I can't enjoy being single. Well. For now.
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The stupider part is that it would be easier to stack out from the other direction.
There are 8 pieces of wood @ 1.5" each = 12"
Studs are 16" on center.So to stack from the right would be 2 pieces to be in the same place.
You can even see the gray box that opens to the wall behind it. That is attached to the stud on the right...its that close. But here I go applying logic to crazy.
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Don't take off the panels on your electric and light switches. You'll find that they're all like this.
It's like when I first looked into the gap in the sheetrock around my breaker panel and discovered that my basement has at least 1 (and likely many more) fully wired outlets that were just sheetrocked over at some point. I definitely would have been happier if I hadn't known that.
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I know the adage "if it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid" is a thing, but this might be the exception to the rule
Maxim 43: If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky.
