Donald Trump Pulling US Troops From Europe in Blow to NATO Allies: Report
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also a good reason to make such a fuss about greenland:
well if they won't let us protect them, perhaps we should just leave NATO...
smoke mirrors and bullshit, it's all they have
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Trump is not as dumb as people make him out to be (he would not remain a billionaire if he's that dumb), I reckon he's got some sort of plan (or rather a concept of a plan). His wildcard, unpredictable foreign policy harkens back to Gaullism, when Charles De Gaulle pulled France out of NATO, because he is simply annoyed by the Anglos, and France is being France who loves being maverick pursuing its own independent interest. In the end, France pulling out of NATO was a nothingburger, because France has still been a nominal military ally of the West throughout and France eventually returned to NATO. That being said, Trump could be doing something similar and maybe he doesn't even realise it. Trump's current wildcard foreign policy is still driven by nationalist self-interests, which is follows oddly similar pattern to De Gaulle's.
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Good riddance, we tried to get them out of Germany for decades. American soldiers off base are the worst. Drunk driving their oversized trucks, starting fights in village pubs, and generally being aggressive and obnoxious. And whenever something actually happens, they are picked up by on-base military police, get a slap on the wrist, and keep at it. Due to some bs agreement they are untouchable by German police, and only really end up in court of someone died.
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and only really end up in court of someone died.
That this is a known thing that happens is really tragic.
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maybe he doesn’t even realise it.
sure buddy. 4d chess. from a man who suggested bright lights and bleach for covid.
doubt.
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You don't need such a thing. Aviation is very strict about safety, and once your more thorough tasks come due, you're reliant on the manufacturer anyways. If said manufacturer just says "sorry bud, can't help you", you gave a very expensive heap of unusable equipment
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I don't want to give too much credit to Trump, but there is realpolitik reason for him wanting to take Greenland and retaking the Panama Canal. For him, it is securing perceived gap in American national security, but he's doing it in old school imperialist way as if there's no international law (think of Putin's reason for invading Ukraine because he thinks the latter is the soft underbelly from which to attack Russia, even though before the invasion everyone thought it would be stupid of Putin to invade a country that historically hated Kremlin).
Anyhow, as Sun Tzu said: never underestimate the opponent. There's a reason Trump is a billionaire and the leader of the most powerful country in the world, while both of us are not any of those. People can be dumb, but not that dumb. People have also
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Good and clear out your airbases overs here too. And take your shit cars with you.
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but there is realpolitik reason for him wanting to take Greenland and retaking the Panama Canal.
and it makes sense if you're a twelve year old, or, if you want to destroy NATO and our country's other alliances.
He's wrecking the fucking place, you dolt.
Cancelling NIH funding, leaving the WHO, jerking around our allies with bullshit... open your damned eyes.
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can this happen in asia too please
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Look, learn the basics of realpolitik, then come back. I'm not defending Trump, I'm explaining why he does what he does. A lot of people don't understand what dry analysis is especially in realpolitik. I linked an article from an esteemed site explaining Trump's motivation so that's a start.
Is what Trump doing stupid? Sure. But for him it's not with respect to his nativist, nationalistic agenda. He's going back to old school imperialism and unilateralism of a more powerful imperialistic nation state. People said the same of Hitler as being stupid, but no one can't doubt he had been influential. In spite of losing the attempted coup, Hitler had been able to use the political system to gain power after all, and enact his own vision of ultranationalism. It's the same with Trump. And again, Trump is the one in charge, not you nor I, so he's not dumb in his own right. Keep underestimating the opponent, and you're the one who will actually lose. A lot of people underestimated Hitler and his partner Mussolini and look what happened.
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That would be nice. Let's see if it actually happens.
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What could Putin have that could threaten Europe when he has been unable to make inroads in Ukraine for years?
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MMW: He'll soon need every single fighter at home.
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If there are no buyers for treasuries it'll tank the dollar value and go a long way to remove it's status as a reserve currency. Trump insist on rocking the boat that has been working for the US.
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Dude Realpolitik is not about ignoring effects getting rid of all your allies has, making yourself a pariah. That's not dry analysis it is, as you correctly point out, stupidity.
If you had invoked geopolitical "realism" (as they call it) you would have a point: Because that stuff is inherently stupid. But it's also not Realpolitik.
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Asia has a Chinese Taiwan threat. It's a very different situation to Europe.
What do you want to happen or change in Asia? Removing troops from where and to what degree?
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I don't think supposedly remaining a billionaire necessarily correlates with intelligence.
With enough money or influence, you get money. No need to be clever or sound.
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Due to some bs agreement they are untouchable by German police, and only really end up in court of someone died.
Anna Sacoolas killed a kid with their car leaving a US airbase in the UK - she fucked off back to the US claiming diplomatic immunity so she couldn't face charges. So they don't even always end up in court.
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We're still falling into the pitfalls of not understanding the other side. Trump is running on nativist agenda. He doesn't necessarily care about maintaining allies for the United States. If he does, it's about alliance of convenience.
And since he's running on nativist agenda, he is doing so because he knows that many Americans are tired of globalisation and internationalism. The outsourcing made people lose jobs without alternatives being offered. Endless foreign interventions motivated by corporate greed under the guise of human rights protection. That's what the people want to be addressed and that's Trump's policies are based from. His platform did not come out of the vacuum and the people simply ate it up. He knows where the wind is heading and used it to sail to his advantage while the rest wants to remain on the previous course (i.e. the status quo). Who is the smart and dumb one? The smart one is certainly the one who's in charge now and steering the rudder. There is nothing wrong giving credit to where it's due; and people are afraid to acknowledge the truth.