Donald Trump Pulling US Troops From Europe in Blow to NATO Allies: Report

[blackn1ght@feddit.uk]

Due to some bs agreement they are untouchable by German police, and only really end up in court of someone died.

Anna Sacoolas killed a kid with their car leaving a US airbase in the UK - she fucked off back to the US claiming diplomatic immunity so she couldn't face charges. So they don't even always end up in court.

[tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world]

We're still falling into the pitfalls of not understanding the other side. Trump is running on nativist agenda. He doesn't necessarily care about maintaining allies for the United States. If he does, it's about alliance of convenience.

And since he's running on nativist agenda, he is doing so because he knows that many Americans are tired of globalisation and internationalism. The outsourcing made people lose jobs without alternatives being offered. Endless foreign interventions motivated by corporate greed under the guise of human rights protection. That's what the people want to be addressed and that's Trump's policies are based from. His platform did not come out of the vacuum and the people simply ate it up. He knows where the wind is heading and used it to sail to his advantage while the rest wants to remain on the previous course (i.e. the status quo). Who is the smart and dumb one? The smart one is certainly the one who's in charge now and steering the rudder. There is nothing wrong giving credit to where it's due; and people are afraid to acknowledge the truth.

[mubelotix@jlai.lu]

This is why we don't allow foreign bases in France. Also, alliances are frail and cannot be depended on

[viking@infosec.pub]

Yep, it's the only instance where they might, but even then it's no guarantee. Closing the bases would be awesome for anyone but landlords in the areas who are charging extortionate rates to base personal rather than offering affordable housing to locals.

[prandom_returns@lemm.ee]

Wow!

Now do russia!

[blackn1ght@feddit.uk]

rather than offering affordable housing to locals

Let's be honest, this wouldnt happen. Ideally the base would close and basically have an entirely new village built on it, flooding the local market with available properties that helps reduce the cost of housing - an abundance of supply over demand.

That said, the locals might have mixed feelings as US airmen will likely contribute to the local economy in some way.

[tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world]

There are plenty of rich people who lost their wealth-- mostly due to stupidity because they became decadent and resting on their laurels, believing their luck will last forever, like Charlie Sheen. Trump could have done the same and he has had plenty of lawsuits. And yet he's still here.

As someone mentioned, Trump's antics are all smoke and mirrors for distraction. But didn't realise that someone totally dumb would not be doing that all. The greatest trick that the devil pulled is make everyone believe he is stupid and harmless.

[barsoap@lemm.ee]

Who is the smart and dumb one? The smart one is certainly the one who’s in charge now and steering the rudder.

Nah. He's the less stupid one. Liberals within the Democratic party backstabbing Bernie and gaslighting the people about the people's own economical woes are the real stupid ones, the reason slightly less stupid could win.

[eatmytaxes44@futurology.today]

Yes. Yanks go home

[eatmytaxes44@futurology.today]

Get the fuck out of every foreign base. Period. Americans soldiers should stay in america.

[eatmytaxes44@futurology.today]

Why go that far? There were still supporting a genocide last week.

Ah wait germany is doing that too. Nevermind

[eatmytaxes44@futurology.today]

Beside, it's not that old so that people don't get cancer from agent orange anymore.

What a scummy country, the USA

[eatmytaxes44@futurology.today]

Ah yes I benefited a lot from having nazi gangsters roaming free funded by gladio money.

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

If NATO and the US are no longer as much if a factor? He can project westward with less fear.

[warl0k3@lemmy.world]

I hate to be the "ra ra america" guy here, but you know that's totally within the power of any country we have a base in to do, right? Our base leases can all be terminated by the host country pretty much whenever they want, and we'll leave. This even happens sometimes, too - it's partially why we withdrew from afghanistan. With one or two (cough cough) notable exceptions, US bases are established because we were invited by the host government.

[warl0k3@lemmy.world]

It's depressing, but the US is the main supporter of the Ukraine war effort. Europe has been able to rely on a US-backed NATO for a long time, and boy oh boy is trump making it clear what a bad idea that was. If the US stops supporting Ukraine, even just materially (i.e. we keep supplying intelligence and similar), the war will turn depressingly quickly. Hopefully they've been able to inflict enough damage on the russian economy that they'll agree to a cease fire, but no european nations are equipped to fight the war of attrition Ukraine has turned into.

[jokedeity@lemm.ee]

Donald Trump is going to kill millions, maybe billions of people in the long run from the collective effort of all his combined actions, and it sounds like the majority of people will be applauding the entire time right up to the very moment it's their head on the block. Tankies, conservatives, and centrists cheer as Earth burns.

[jaxxed@lemmy.ml]

Well that could be tough for Europe to quickly adapt to ... but ok.

Will they pull out of Greenland?

[kissaki@feddit.org]

I don't think it's disingenuous. Omission of context in specific criticism doesn't invalidate said criticism.

[kissaki@feddit.org]

We've seen war between nuclear nations. It's not necessarily a deterrent from war. Russia is not using nukes against Ukraine either. It's merely a deterrent from escalation to that degree.