US approves $7.4bn sale of more weapons to Israel used to ravage Gaza

[saleh@feddit.org]

I think the way forward is to get away from both Republicans and Democrats and bring people into power, who are not part of either. Going back to the Democrats is not going to make things better again. Another example for that is the migration and deportation policies of Biden, which were mostly a continuation of Trumps policies.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

Intensified its activities in the West Bank, including accelerating settlement expansion, legalising previously unauthorised outposts, and conducting large-scale military operations.

So business as usual then? Lemme just quote the Wikipedia page on the war:

West Bank:[h]

905 killed[11][33][34]
7,370+ wounded[11][34]
14,300+ detained

See here for more.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

I mean "what the fuck happened in November 2024" is an important question to answer if you're ever going to stop people from being loaded into boxcars.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Really? How?

[tree_frog@lemm.ee]

Left populism is popular. Center right positions coming from the Democrats are not.

Would you like fascism or diet fascism? Uhh... Neither. So I guess I will just stay home and not vote

(Actually, I did vote. But I can understand why a lot of people weren't motivated to).

[tree_frog@lemm.ee]

It certainly seems that way on .world lately.

I knew what the comments were going to be in this thread before I even opened it.

[auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Do you have some inherent deficiency that makes it impossible to see nuance? In another world you'd be MAGA.

No, not business as usual, as I explained.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

Because one thing (holding your nosed and uniting behind the Democrats) was tried, and miserably failed. If you don't know why it failed you'll never know how to do better, or even if it is possible to do better. I guess my point is that those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it, and y'all really can't afford a repeat of this election.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

Do you have a source with numbers backing up your claims?

[inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world]

Except people aren't rehashing out to learn, everyone is just rehashing things to assign blame.

Fuck, Republicans had their whole

[njm1314@lemmy.world]

This is down voted for some reason but it's literally true. No matter who you voted for no matter whether you voted or not you voted for genocide in this election. Pure facts.

[nobodyelse@sh.itjust.works]

Many people are rehashing it in defense, because these posts always start with assigning blame for not voting in Harris.

It would be great if the Democratic Party started running a more popular platform and won the election by something other than begrudging lesser-of-two-evils votes. Obama’s first term showed how powerful that could be.

Hopefully the Democratic Party has learned that bringing a status-quo to a populist fight isn’t a good idea, but I’m not holding my breath on that anymore.

[pfeffy@lemmy.world]

How much military aid did we send to Israel under Biden? And Kamala was different from him, how? How many UN motions were vetoed by a Democrat administration to prolong the genocide? I ate shit and voted for Democrats again, but there was never anyone to vote for that wasn't going to support the genocide of Palestinians.

[pfeffy@lemmy.world]

Worse how? In terms of for Palestine. They were always screwed no matter what. It seems to me that Trump is pretty much identical to Biden in terms of supporting Palestine, except he's an idiot and says the quiet part out loud while Biden just recited Zionist talking points.

[pfeffy@lemmy.world]

Do you have some inherent deficiency that makes it impossible to see nuance?

My God... The irony.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

You seem to be operating under the ludicrous assumption that there will ever be non-Russian style elections in the U.S. again.

You seem to also be operating under the ludicrous assumption that Republicans will ever give up power willingly now that they control all three branches of government.

No wonder you want to keep talking about the election. You think nothing has changed.

Keep acting like America isn't a fascist dictatorship right now. Be sure you tell all the brown and queer people that they have nothing to worry about too.

My god.

[pfeffy@lemmy.world]

Do you know which politician has taken the most money from Israel? I think that he was happy to support their genocide, and his vice president was no different.

Trump is absolutely a nightmare but trying to pretend that Democrats weren't also a nightmare on this issue is ridiculous. The halls of Congress are full of Israeli flags. There is no voting to help. Palestinians meaningfully possible.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

They think there will be another legitimate election and I don't know why they think that in the face of the mountain of evidence that America is now a fascist one-party state with that party being above the law.

[tree_frog@lemm.ee]

Yeah, you probably saw the article yesterday about the head of the FEC. They tried to fire her and of course Musk is trying to get into all of those systems.

The only way the US is going to ever have fair elections again is after a lot of bloodshed. And possibly restructuring as a new nation.

Federal IT is basically fucked. The whole system would need to be replaced to get rid of all of the back doors Musk is installing.

Elections are over. Gtfo or figure out how to stay safe if you have to (I'm in the later camp, can't afford to move and hard to get a passport anyway being trans)

[auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

How is that ironic? You are failing to grasp the nuance in difference between Kamala and Trump.