I'm scared to post this anywhere because people will interpret it as me being misogynistic.
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Hardly. I added some clarification to my argument.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I don't see how your argument is anything other than "Memes about men aren't inclusive. What about everyone else?"
The fact that men are privileged overall doesn't mean they don't have issues. Acknowledging those issues but requiring an additional acknowledgement that other groups exist and have issues is the same thing as 'all lives matter'.
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Source? You’re speaking with a lot of authority here and I’m not sure you fully know what you’re talking about. What you seem to be calling anti-sexism is often called intersectional feminism.
It's...in the name?
But also sure, here's the Cambridge Dictionary:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/anti-sexist -
No true Scotsman, amirite?
Antisexism would be great. I'm not sure that it won't easily be coopted by toxic feminist or incels. But I'd join
It kinda exists, but I feel it is drowned in the era of outrage-based media.
And yes, it is often appropriated by various actors, even though the premise couldn't be clearer.
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The problem is in your first remake of the quote.
I don't like being associated with anti-racism...
I support antisexism. You just equated feminism and antisexism again, while I do my best to highlight the distinction between them, as the latter is a bigger category than the former.
Nothing wrong with feminism as a fight for women's rights, but looking at mens' problems through the prism of feminism is the same as looking at racism against whites through the prism of BLM, or apples through bananas. That's simply the wrong tool, and I suggest having the swiss knife to have them all. Also, the issue of racism is much more one-sided (at least on the West) compared to sexism, so it's not an overly accurate prism to watch through.
There is feminism - about women. There is masculism (which is currently heavily discredited by patriarchal shitheads, but originally comes from the same place of equality as feminism) - about men. There are also nonbinaries fighting for their place in the world. And there is antisexism combining them all.
If someone calls themselves a feminist, but they don't acknowledge the struggles men face under patriarchy, they can hardly be called a feminist.
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Thanks for clarifying. I'm actually trying to argue the exact opposite of something like "all lives matter".
If you're trying to do that, you're doing terribly.
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It's...in the name?
But also sure, here's the Cambridge Dictionary:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/anti-sexistHow much do you know about feminism?
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If someone calls themselves a feminist, but they don't acknowledge the struggles men face under patriarchy, they can hardly be called a feminist.
Sure, but I don't think telling them so is a productive avenue for conversation.
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Either you're a feminist or you're a misogynist, it's simple.I too think in absolutes. Either you're a Christian or a devil worshipper.
Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists.
Wow, life got much easier when I eliminated nuance.
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Did you know that 74% of statistics are made up on the spot?
How many feminist podcasts do you consume, and when did you notice the change?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I'm not talking about feminists who actually know their stuff (such as most - but not all - who make podcasts on the subject). Those are niche subcultures. I'm talking about the self-proclaimed feminists on social media like TikTok, Instagram, or the comment sections on Reddit and Facebook. The people that the general public comes in contact with and who shape the meaning of our language. Your attempt at gatekeeping kind of underscores my point.
But yes you're right that when I said 90% I didn't base it on some scientific survey. It's the general sense that I get on the internet and read what's on my feed.
