'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
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Holy shit you get 80 fps with frame gen on with a 4090? What resolution?
2560 × 1440
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Take from that what you will.
Nothing from digital foundry yet.
DF is who I'm waiting on, but from what I'm hearing, they didn't send reviewer codes so it's all delayed and that's never a good sign.
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Was going to say... Who is out there buying games way outside their machines' specs? Seems pretty straightforward.
I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn't for nothing.
There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren't using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I'm pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.
There’s a difference between a game being way outside of your specs because it’s graphically very advanced and your hardware is old, and a game just being unoptimized slop that expects its users to deal with by throwing higher specs at a fixable problem.
I have a brand new 5070ti that can play all kinds of UE5 games with much better graphics than BL4 at 4k resolution with ray tracing at a decent frame rate without relying on frame gen. And I’m in the top few percentiles here.
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You got it!
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2560 × 1440
Holy fuck that is so much worse than I realized it was. What a joke.
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I have come to accept that this is a PR campaign to plaster the name everywhere all over social media and let it worm its way into currently pissed off gamers' heads for a few months down the line when they've calmed down and inevitably buy the fucking thing.
Pitchford is a slimeball. Rarely has a man who is allegedly not an insurance or used-car salesman given off such nakedly scummy vibes.
We need to stop giving free publicity to this little marketing man, and to this poorly optimised, expensive game.
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After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4
From what I hear from people actually able to play the game, it's better than 3.
Something like:
2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > Pre-Sequel
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I played the first one but after that the formula felt pretty samey and I was bored of it. Would a fourth Borderlands game even be good if it wasn't laggy?
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Welp, that's what I did. Got my money back. I'll buy it when it's $19.99.
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After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4
I honestly don't know what this "trainwreck" talk is. BL3 was passable. I didn't like the antagonists, but the game played fine if purples dropped way too much and the new guns weren't great. People make it seem like it was the Worst Game Ever and I don't get it. The pre-sequel was hot garbage, but 3 was fine.
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Was going to say... Who is out there buying games way outside their machines' specs? Seems pretty straightforward.
I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn't for nothing.
There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren't using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I'm pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.
I have a 3090 in a 7800x3d box with 64 gb ram and I had to drop from 7680x2160 to 3840x1080 to get decent framerates. I get better performance in Star Citizen. After a few CTD's I just went ahead and got a refund.
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Apparently the graphics are basically the same as 3, but performance is dog shit on even the best hardware and crashes are unavoidable.
When people complained, he said they need to use AI fake frame and upscale from 720. Which still wasn't good performance.
It might get fixed later in updates. But this guy is handling so badly he might legitimately be mentally unwell. It's at the point it's weird he still has a job
It's got Denuvo running
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Gearbox was been scummy for a while now. Customers can learn to stop giving them money or can keep putting up with this.
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Welp, that's what I did. Got my money back. I'll buy it when it's $19.99.
You should get it for free elsewhere. Don't give this asshole your money.
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Welp, that's what I did. Got my money back. I'll buy it when it's $19.99.
I was going to do that originally but now I'm never playing it.
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BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).
What's crazy is how inconsistent the problems seem to be. I've got a 4080 Super and a decent processor, and I'm getting 120-140fps with most settings as high as they can go with frame gen on at 1440p. Only crashed once in about 40 hours of gameplay.
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You should get it for free elsewhere. Don't give this asshole your money.
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Denuvo
And Empress is gone, though they were pretty toxic so that's no big loss for me.
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What's crazy is how inconsistent the problems seem to be. I've got a 4080 Super and a decent processor, and I'm getting 120-140fps with most settings as high as they can go with frame gen on at 1440p. Only crashed once in about 40 hours of gameplay.
I am going to need to double check my settings then. I might have only enabled DLSS and not frame gen.
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I played the first one but after that the formula felt pretty samey and I was bored of it. Would a fourth Borderlands game even be good if it wasn't laggy?
Don't let the name fool you, it's the sixth game.
