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  • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

    The Signal gateway has currently issues, due to Signald being broken.

    For WhatsApp and Discord there is Slidge.

    IRC works great with Biboumi.

    I am not aware of a Google voice bridge, but there are ways to bridge to the regular phone network and sms. The easiest is the https://jmp.chat/ service.

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    How is signald broken? I'm using it with Matrix now just fine.

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      How is signald broken? I'm using it with Matrix now just fine.

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      I think you can't connect new devices or so and the development has stalled. But I don't use Signal personally, so not 100% sure. AFAIK the Matrix bridge is currently being rewritten with another backend.

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        Yes they are called "transports".

        As for when I tried to change the URL, I was moving all services from publicly resolvable DNS to .lan, and Matrix is an issue because you can't change that after the fact, even if you haven't federated.

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        HI,
        Thanks for the info (and also thanks to PoVog).

        My experience with mqtt is limited. I once set up a ejabberd server to try it out. It works but -as I mainly interested in federated chat- it was not that interesting. There was a lot less traffic and the rooms that exist that had traffic had a big issue with moderation (i.e. spam content). The S/N ratio of the discussions was a lot less then on matrix or other platforms.

        I also notice it was missing some features that are do are present in matrix, like the ability to edit messages. From how I understand it, the modulator nature of XMPP is a nice idea but as there is a large diversity on clients and the features they support, it does seems to come down to only the lowest common domininator to really work well.

        As I have just set up a pi5 as my new selfhosting-server, I might give it a try again, and see how well the transports (like slidge as mention by PoVog) work.

        Concerning the URL issue, as explained, it kind-of looks like a normal side-effect of the principle of server authentication. Alsom your use-case (one server, one client) it not the normal goal why chat-servers are build. Even in a non-federated use, you have multiple clients connecting to it. Cchanging the server hostname will impact all clients, so is probably a very rare scenario.
        I did see you use synapse. I do not know if you dendrite or conduit have the same behaviour.

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        • andres4ny@social.ridetrans.itA [email protected]

          @2xsaiko XMPP is nice and lightweight, so I think either would work fine. I just find prosody has more community momentum.

          It was matrix that was a massive memory hog, required running bleeding-edge homeserver software, didn't do proper security support, etc, so that's where I have stronger feelings.

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          Thanks! I’ll take a closer look at both then and see which I like better.

          I am running a Matrix homeserver right now and yeah it’s definitely a mess.

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          • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

            What's your docker compose for all of that? I would be interested in running that stack.

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            You should check out docker-compose-viz or dockge for visualizing/managing these complex setups - I've been using them for my audiobookshelf server (which I access with the soundleaf app) and it's been a lifesaver for managing all those interconnected containers.

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            • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

              I think you can't connect new devices or so and the development has stalled. But I don't use Signal personally, so not 100% sure. AFAIK the Matrix bridge is currently being rewritten with another backend.

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              Ahh, just realized the Mautrix Signal bridge I use no longer requires SignalD

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              • 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de2 [email protected]

                Since you’ve used both, how do ejabberd and prosody compare to another? I was going to go with the former.

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                Ejabberd has more enterprise features and scales better for large public servers, Prosody has more interesting community modules and generally is ideal for smaller private servers (but has a very nice invite system).

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                  You should check out docker-compose-viz or dockge for visualizing/managing these complex setups - I've been using them for my audiobookshelf server (which I access with the soundleaf app) and it's been a lifesaver for managing all those interconnected containers.

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                  I use Lazydocker, I find it has more useful info and stats than Dockge, but I haven't tried the other.

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                  • andres4ny@social.ridetrans.itA [email protected]

                    @poVoq @fmstrat I ran ejabberd for years before switching to matrix (synapse). Matrix was a disaster, plus jmp.chat is a fantastic google voice / VOIP replacement, so I switched back to xmpp (with prosody). Out of those options, prosody is clearly the best for self-hosting.

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                    Is it worth swapping from snikket? Seemed to ve an easier way to get prosody

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                      Is it worth swapping from snikket? Seemed to ve an easier way to get prosody

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                      @ssdfsdf3488sd My understanding it that they're both pretty much the same, so I wouldn't unless snikket has stopped being maintained or something?

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