Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. Technology
  3. Adblockers stop publishers serving ads to (or even seeing) 1bn web users - Press Gazette

Adblockers stop publishers serving ads to (or even seeing) 1bn web users - Press Gazette

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Technology
technology
339 Posts 199 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

    They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

    Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

    S This user is from outside of this forum
    S This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote last edited by
    #300

    An adblocker on your devices is equivalent to putting a Britta filter on your water tap.

    gnulinuxdude@lemmy.mlG R 2 Replies Last reply
    22
    • L [email protected]

      Link

      B This user is from outside of this forum
      B This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote last edited by
      #301

      Oh, haha. I thought you were telling me I should rethink using a DNS adblocker.

      L 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • S [email protected]

        An adblocker on your devices is equivalent to putting a Britta filter on your water tap.

        gnulinuxdude@lemmy.mlG This user is from outside of this forum
        gnulinuxdude@lemmy.mlG This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote last edited by
        #302

        More necessary than that, really.

        S 1 Reply Last reply
        6
        • gnulinuxdude@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

          More necessary than that, really.

          S This user is from outside of this forum
          S This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote last edited by
          #303

          That entirely depends on the quality of your water.

          1 Reply Last reply
          7
          • S [email protected]

            An adblocker on your devices is equivalent to putting a Britta filter on your water tap.

            R This user is from outside of this forum
            R This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote last edited by [email protected]
            #304

            Tangentially related but britta filters actually suck as far as I know; they're like the worst water filter for removing materials. Did a test myself with a fresh filter - 105 ppm tap to around 72 ppm vs 0 ppm for zero water pitchers and around 30ish for epic, it's been a bit so the numbers are rough for the britta and epic but I test my tap and ZW pitcher routinely.

            1 Reply Last reply
            2
            • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

              Joke's on him, it's 100.99.99.99

              anteater@discuss.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
              anteater@discuss.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote last edited by
              #305

              Oh dear, don't ever forget your netmask.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • S [email protected]

                The trade body called it “illegal circumvention technology”, said 12ft.io has been locked by its web host, and promised to take similar action against other paywall bypassing technologies.

                Just because you send bits to my network does not oblige me to render them. That's like saying I broke the law back when I had cable and changed channels during ad breaks. Falls flat on its face.

                B This user is from outside of this forum
                B This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote last edited by
                #306

                Beautifully worded 🙏

                1 Reply Last reply
                1
                • B [email protected]

                  Once the data enters my network it's my fucking data and I can do with it what I please.

                  T This user is from outside of this forum
                  T This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote last edited by
                  #307

                  Mildly pedantic, but uBlock blocks the connection before it enters your network

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • S [email protected]

                    Speaking of cooking and not wanting to see 20 videos playing over the recipe:

                    https://based.cooking/

                    No ad blockers needed

                    F This user is from outside of this forum
                    F This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote last edited by
                    #308

                    oooh i love this! thank you! FOSS cooking is indeed based af

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • P [email protected]

                      i know this may go against the general attitude here but i gotta say this does make me a little sad when i think about it. and i use adblockers as well, but i never knew what the numbers were. when it's put into context like this it's hard not to be discouraged by the fact that this is still probably a minority of users. i mean what the hell, how are people still using the internet with ads turned on.

                      D This user is from outside of this forum
                      D This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #309

                      I'm starting to notice that a lot of people don't even notice what are ads or not. When i installed pihole and enabled it for all devices at home. My gf was complaining why suddenly a loy of pages wouldn't work anymore. Yeah, so she always clicked the ad/sponsored link everywhere and didn't have the slightest clue. And let's not start about social media and how basically 75% of it is (hidden) ads.

                      Personally I'm of the mentality if some company force feeds me their ads while i was not actively searching out their product type, I'll think 3 times before ever considering their products. Thankfully, i see basically no ads (online) anymore these days.

                      P 1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • B [email protected]

                        Oh, haha. I thought you were telling me I should rethink using a DNS adblocker.

                        L This user is from outside of this forum
                        L This user is from outside of this forum
                        [email protected]
                        wrote last edited by
                        #310

                        I see, hehehe 😄

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • killeronthecorner@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                          The use of the term "Dark traffic" here is to paint the use of ad-blockers as something nefarious. Don't use it, fuck these people right in their stupid mouths.

                          I propose using the terms "clean traffic", for ad-blocked website traffic, and "dogshit traffic" for everything else.

                          O This user is from outside of this forum
                          O This user is from outside of this forum
                          [email protected]
                          wrote last edited by
                          #311

                          Clean traffic, smooth traffic, able-to-get-to-where-you're-going traffic

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          1
                          • J [email protected]

                            When piholes go mainstream they are fully cooked. Even tech illiterate in your family won't get the ads

                            D This user is from outside of this forum
                            D This user is from outside of this forum
                            [email protected]
                            wrote last edited by
                            #312

                            Not even a linux guy, but I had a Pi from a decade ago that I never opened, decided to set it up and use it for something useful, friends suggested Pihole. pained myself for 2 days getting everything working (most of my trouble had to do with peripherals and IP addresses not the device itself) but after the grief, got it working and it was well worth it.

                            I even printed a sticker for it that said "where ads go to die"

                            sorry doubleclick, but you're toast

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            1
                            • killeronthecorner@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                              The use of the term "Dark traffic" here is to paint the use of ad-blockers as something nefarious. Don't use it, fuck these people right in their stupid mouths.

                              I propose using the terms "clean traffic", for ad-blocked website traffic, and "dogshit traffic" for everything else.

                              D This user is from outside of this forum
                              D This user is from outside of this forum
                              [email protected]
                              wrote last edited by
                              #313

                              depending on your household's browsing habits, it can be downright insane how much traffic goes through ones network (and the web at large), that is just nothing but dog shit.

                              I monitored my pihole at my place and my own traffic is usually no more than 15% garbage with about 750,000 domains blocked, but the second grandma or grandpa starts doomscrolling boomer things on their phones and ipads. I saw the network traffic at 60% blocked one time and I had to confront them and flatly ask them "what the fuck are you doing on your phone?"

                              also set up a Region exemption or whatever, blocking russian, chinese, and a whole bunch of other untrustworthy TLDs and im literally showing my grandmother the repeated attempts to communicate with something in fucking China in real time whilst she's playing some solitare game she downloaded.

                              S S 2 Replies Last reply
                              5
                              • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

                                O This user is from outside of this forum
                                O This user is from outside of this forum
                                [email protected]
                                wrote last edited by [email protected]
                                #314

                                Advertisers do not have the right to demand my attention, or to brainwash me. I have every right to deny them and decide what to allow inside my head. This is war.

                                "We paid for the right to show you this!"

                                You paid for the opportunity not the right, but you didn't pay me, motherfucker -- and my price is everything you have or fuck off and die.

                                Edit: You know what? This is how I really feel about ads.

                                This is a consent issue, and I will not allow advertisers inside me. They hire psychologists in order to exploit humans' most vulnerable mental blind spots. They don't just brainwash us. They mindfuck the entire human species, and they do not recognize consent. We need to treat advertising as the collective mindr*pe that it is, otherwise they will never stop exploiting us, and we will never be able to build a bright future for humanity and this world. They are manipulating the trajectory of an entire species with zero regard to any future well-being. The butterfly effects are inconceivable. Our minds are sacred. The advertising industry is committing a crime against humanity that we have failed to recognize as such, because money is all that matters today. They must be stopped before Big Tech perfects brain-computer interfaces.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                13
                                • A [email protected]

                                  “The growth of dark traffic undermines the ability of publishers to fund the production of quality content, or even operate as a business. We must recognise users are not the main driver causing this.”

                                  And Scott Messer, founder of publishing adtech consultancy Messer Media, added: “Dark traffic is unlike anything we have seen before. It’s demonetising publisher content at scale without user consent.

                                  Are they trying to present it as if poor innocent users need to be protected from the vile ad blockers?

                                  O This user is from outside of this forum
                                  O This user is from outside of this forum
                                  [email protected]
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #315

                                  Bold of them to claim they produce quality content. Such businesses should die right along with their advertisers.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • D [email protected]

                                    I'm starting to notice that a lot of people don't even notice what are ads or not. When i installed pihole and enabled it for all devices at home. My gf was complaining why suddenly a loy of pages wouldn't work anymore. Yeah, so she always clicked the ad/sponsored link everywhere and didn't have the slightest clue. And let's not start about social media and how basically 75% of it is (hidden) ads.

                                    Personally I'm of the mentality if some company force feeds me their ads while i was not actively searching out their product type, I'll think 3 times before ever considering their products. Thankfully, i see basically no ads (online) anymore these days.

                                    P This user is from outside of this forum
                                    P This user is from outside of this forum
                                    [email protected]
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #316

                                    i guess it's true that technology has been getting too easy to use. the barrier to entry being too low means people aren't really ready to use them safely.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • D [email protected]

                                      depending on your household's browsing habits, it can be downright insane how much traffic goes through ones network (and the web at large), that is just nothing but dog shit.

                                      I monitored my pihole at my place and my own traffic is usually no more than 15% garbage with about 750,000 domains blocked, but the second grandma or grandpa starts doomscrolling boomer things on their phones and ipads. I saw the network traffic at 60% blocked one time and I had to confront them and flatly ask them "what the fuck are you doing on your phone?"

                                      also set up a Region exemption or whatever, blocking russian, chinese, and a whole bunch of other untrustworthy TLDs and im literally showing my grandmother the repeated attempts to communicate with something in fucking China in real time whilst she's playing some solitare game she downloaded.

                                      S This user is from outside of this forum
                                      S This user is from outside of this forum
                                      [email protected]
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #317

                                      You shouldn't say that to your Grandma or Grandpa. 🙂

                                      D 1 Reply Last reply
                                      1
                                      • S [email protected]

                                        The trade body called it “illegal circumvention technology”, said 12ft.io has been locked by its web host, and promised to take similar action against other paywall bypassing technologies.

                                        Just because you send bits to my network does not oblige me to render them. That's like saying I broke the law back when I had cable and changed channels during ad breaks. Falls flat on its face.

                                        E This user is from outside of this forum
                                        E This user is from outside of this forum
                                        [email protected]
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #318

                                        Or saying it's illegal to hang up on telemarketers

                                        S 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                          They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                          Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

                                          jackbydev@programming.devJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          jackbydev@programming.devJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          [email protected]
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #319

                                          What's frustrating to me is the idea that law makers and advertisers believe I don't have a right to alter data that comes onto things I own. And nobody chime in with the brain dead "☝️🤓 actually you don't own it." Because even if you wanna waste time with that stupid distraction, I own my computer. I built it from parts.

                                          Controlling my perception is my right. If I wanna use things that block ads that's my right. PERIOD. I NEED TO BLOCK ADS BECAUSE OF MY DISABILITY.

                                          B 1 Reply Last reply
                                          5
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups