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Adblockers stop publishers serving ads to (or even seeing) 1bn web users - Press Gazette

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  • almacca@aussie.zoneA [email protected]

    The trade body called it “illegal circumvention technology”

    Lol. Fuck off.

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    Fuckers want to colonize my property (my computer). that's what's illegal!

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    • almacca@aussie.zoneA [email protected]

      Then I guess I'm not looking at those pages. No skin off my nose. That said, Firefox with Ublock Origin plus a couple of other ad-blockers seems to be working pretty well for me. Anything with a paywall, I just move on.

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      Then I guess I'm not looking at those pages. No skin of my nose.

      That works until every website starts doing it.

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        Advertising needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking.

        It arbitrary pollutes any environment it’s conducted in, and causes secondary harms to non-participants by incentivising insecure hoarding of private information with the intent to better target individuals.

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        Agreed left unchecked it is horrible, one of the darkest pervasive elements of capitalism, used in a manipulative manner. We've reached astounding understanding of human psyche and are using that knowledge with advertising to control people's subconscious. It's disgusting.

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        • G [email protected]

          Then I guess I'm not looking at those pages. No skin of my nose.

          That works until every website starts doing it.

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          🤷 So be it.

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          • A [email protected]

            It's not about blocking ads for me, that's a happy side-effect, it's about owning your computing and taking the necessary protection against tracking. Before "ad blockers" existed I spent a lot of time manually configuring my browser to block websites from connecting me to unnecessary, potentially intrusive third party servers, after all it's my browser and my internet connection. Now uBlock Origin does that for me, it's not an ad blocker, it's a wide spectrum content blocker and the user should have the final say on what they connect to. I think we should stop calling them ad blockers.

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            Call them what they are. Internet condoms.

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              “The growth of dark traffic undermines the ability of publishers to fund the production of quality content, or even operate as a business. We must recognise users are not the main driver causing this.”

              "It’s demonetising publisher content at scale without user consent."

              They act like we don't know what we are doing and want the ads. People who block ads in browsers like ddg and brave choose those browsers for that reason.

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              Yeah, but bad ad choices cause people who would otherwise be fine with ads that fund content to block. Some will never go away, in the same way some will always pirate, but the ad landscape has become like the streaming landscape and pushed people towards these choices

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              • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                Likewise, I can prevent anything from even entering my network that I don't want on it.

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                Unless it’s intellectual property that belongs to the movie industry. Then you better not touch it. Or that’s illegal.

                But if it’s advertisements, then you have to watch it, or that’s illegal.

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                • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                  They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                  Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                  I have my entire network running with a DNS that blocks all advertising by default. And then, just to make absolutely certain, I run browsers with UBlock Origin on them.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    Yeah, but bad ad choices cause people who would otherwise be fine with ads that fund content to block. Some will never go away, in the same way some will always pirate, but the ad landscape has become like the streaming landscape and pushed people towards these choices

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                    Absolutely. Too bad that even unobtrusive ads still can't be trusted not to have trackers.

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                      I have my entire network running with a DNS that blocks all advertising by default. And then, just to make absolutely certain, I run browsers with UBlock Origin on them.

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                      Any good guides you know of to set that up?

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                        Any good guides you know of to set that up?

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                        My DNS is from controld.com.

                        What you do is you log into your router and on the local area network page there's generally a section to change the DNS settings of your router and you just put in the IP addresses that control D gives you.

                        You can also set it up on iOS and Android so that you are also protected when you leave your home network and are on the go on your cellular network.

                        As I said, along with Control-D, I also use U-Block Origin to catch anything that it might miss.

                        The other thing to do is use as many open source applications as you can possibly get away with.

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                        • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                          Toggles like that are available in other adblockers too and they pose a problem. They ad a ransom to showing you ads. You don’t want the ads but if the advertisers pay the adblocker company they get whitelisted and you see the ads anyway.

                          Never use those toggles.

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                          They ad a random to showing you ads

                          hhwat

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                            Any good guides you know of to set that up?

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                            https://pi-hole.net/

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                            • N [email protected]

                              Advertising needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking.

                              It arbitrary pollutes any environment it’s conducted in, and causes secondary harms to non-participants by incentivising insecure hoarding of private information with the intent to better target individuals.

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                              Reminds me of the bill hicks quote on advertising.

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                              • aceshigh@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                Reminds me of the bill hicks quote on advertising.

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                                The sentiment is influenced by many.

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                                • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                  They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                  Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                  The ad industry is an abusive ex that complains when you defend yourself.

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                                  • besselj@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                                    Raw-dogging the internet without an adblocker is about as irresponsible as not using contraception

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                                    For a few years, even the FBI officially recommended that everyone should use an adblocker. They recently removed that PSA from their website, I believe with the new administration:

                                    https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/22/fbi-ad-blocker/

                                    https://www.pcmag.com/news/fbi-recommends-installing-an-ad-blocker-to-dodge-scammers

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                                      Advertising should be illegal. Huge waste of money and everyone's time.

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                                      Yeah no, I have seen multiple businesses closing down due to poor marketing promotion/budget.

                                      And then we all complain that we didn't know about a certain product/service because they didn't market it good enough (we have seen it a lot of times with movies for example, then they turn into obscure classics with the pass of time, but not really profitable), also some games that didn't really made themselves known while in critical selling weeks?

                                      Who is gonna be the brave soul to release a game when GTA VI appears? That would be marketing suicide, no matter how good your game is.

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                                        Can only imagine how f'd up kids' minds must be now

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                                        My kid hasn't ever seen an ad on any streaming service or any web page, ever. And I block ads via DNS. We don't have any kind of live TV service or cable so they literally have just never seen any ads, ever.

                                        Sometimes if we're out at a restaurant, some TV is playing live content and an ad runs. My kid is shocked like it's the first time he ever ate sugar.

                                        Glad I can keep that toxic trash out of my house and out of his life.

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                                        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                          They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

                                          Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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                                          gasp you mean to tell me you DON'T like 20 million videos playing over the top of the recipe that you're trying to read while trying not to burn dinner? unbelievable.

                                          smh these motherfuckers are so brazen

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