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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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  • A [email protected]

    No animals harmed during sex...hmm

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    Disagreed. I am an animal.

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      No mayo in the bedroom? Why even bother.

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      Vegan aioli just doesn't cut it

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      • T [email protected]

        If the human you're fucking consented, then consuming their fluids is vegan. Hell if they consent, eating them would be vegan too.

        Animals do not consent to having fluids extracted or their lives taken and flesh consumed. Animal agriculture keeps animals in filthy, torturous conditions too, which no animal would ever consent to either.

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        I had a fish that died by suicide. We didn't eat it, but arguably

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          I wouldn't mind a Geth or two, for jolly cooperation

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          Also for destroying the occasional organics, as a little treat

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            I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.

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            • R [email protected]

              I am a AI Freedom Fighter.

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              I'm one too!

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              • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                I had a fish that died by suicide. We didn't eat it, but arguably

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                It was kept in captivity by you though, which is not it's natural habitat so any choices it made were, arguably, under duress.

                If you lived by a creek and regularly recognised a fish swimming by, and one day this fish killed itself in front of you- you still shouldn't eat it as fish contain a lot of parasites and there's very likely also something toxic in the water causing the fish to harm itself this way.

                But yeah, sure, hypothetically: if for a year or so you knew a wild fish that lived in an unpolluted and ecologically healthy body of water, and one day this fish chose to kill itself in front of you. You could, if you really wanted to eat a suicidal fish, eat the fish and say it was vegan because the only harm that came to the fish was through the un-coerced choices of said suicidal fish.

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                  I refuse to use it because it's shit.

                  We are not the same.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.

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                    Effectively I believe we are. During my MFA I realized we were simply copying as a form of craft. It's all we do in arts. Any great work feels like just one continuous story retold again and again.

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                    • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                      I refuse to use it because it's shit.

                      We are not the same.

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                      Yup, these things are still garbage for >90% of all applications people are jamming them into. Breathed a sigh of relief when my company CEO said he doesn't see us using AI for more than can center routing for at least the next several years.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        I mean, abstaining from animal products makes someone a vegan, right? If you abstain from AI products then it would follow that you’re an “AI vegan”.

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                        Abstaining from animal products is just vegetarian. Veganism requires an extremely strict adherence to a very specific set of rules concerning animals.

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                        • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          There's a huge push right now to salvage the AI hype bubble as people realize the tech can't live up to the promises. They are also trying to prevent regulation.

                          This includes the pushes to humanize the tool, like saying it deserves rights or that there may be some kind of racism against the tool.

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                          They're trying to pretend it's real AI rather than extremely complicated text prediction. Hell, the less knowledgeable among them might even believe it. LLMs are a sort of language pareidolia.

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                            We need to poison the models with more satire on the Internet.

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                            Yup, satire is lost on the dumb and LLMs have no intelligence.

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                            • J [email protected]

                              Abstaining from animal products is just vegetarian. Veganism requires an extremely strict adherence to a very specific set of rules concerning animals.

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                              Vegetarians can eat cheese, which is an animal product.

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                                I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

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                                  I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

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                                  You've probably heard this before but do consider alternatives like Startpage and Qwant. It's not flawless but I've found it's definitely better.

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                                  • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                                    I refuse to use it because it's shit.

                                    We are not the same.

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                                    Every last bit of it? What is your stance on use of AI for tasks such as data analysis of massive sets for scientific research, or procedural automation of massive operations?

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                                      how to belittle and minimize a very serious thing: call any protesters of it a " ___ vegan"

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                                      • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                                        Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.

                                        They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it's practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.

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                                        yeah, this is 1000% deliberate manufacturing consent

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                                          I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though

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                                          If you're willing to pay money then Kagi is a great alternative. They claim they don't collect or share your data. Though, Kagi isn't very good for local search results and probably never will be.

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