Signal will finally let you transfer your encrypted chat history to new linked devices

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They would have to have access to your account though? By that same logic whatever you do keep records in could be compromised all the same. Actually far more likely to just be lost due to hardware failure.

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Why? That stuff is literally your life, it's absurd to toss it in the void.

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SMS is inconvenient and expensive. I use IM because it's more convenient, not because it's more secure, though it's a neat bonus.

And why would you not be looking that up months or years down the line? Why would you want to trash it?

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Surely when the chats are on-device they are not encrypted, or encrypted separately with an unrelated secret in storage which can be passed to another device?

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Do you know what signal is?

https://www.signal.org

It isn't associated with reddit or lemmy.

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Oh fucking shit, setting this up today

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This may be out of date, since it's been a while since I last tested this, but: will Signal on desktop still store media in an easily accessible folder where the only security is the use of random strings to identify each individual media file with the file type extension deleted? So, for example, if you've had the desktop Signal client synced with your account for a period of time and have running conversations that include sensitive media, that media can be accessed and viewed without even opening the desktop app (which also, last I tested it, lacks most of the locking/security mechanisms found in the phone versions of Signal).

Most media viewers can open the files without the need for adding the file extension to the end of the filename, albeit you would be browsing the files in a pseudorandom fashion if you didn't try to sort by date or size.

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And why would you not be looking that up months or years down the line?

I use signal for real time communication. Which is mostly casual bullshit or organizing. What exactly would I want to look up beyond say a week's time? In-person and phone conversations fade away all the same.

Why would you want to trash it?

Because I don't want someone going over long-term records of my chats if my devices are ever compromised. I consider those conversations private and would rather they were forgotten than leaked.

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in this context?
haha

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Yeah I've been doing this

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It is quite a bit out of date luckily. Signal-Desktop already stores data encrypted for quite a while. However it used to store the decryption key right alongside it. Recently (a few month ago) Signal switched to storing the key within the systems keystore, greatly improving security. Also causing a flood of users complaining that the can't just copy their .config to a new desktop and retain their chat history. This may have prompted the release of this new feature

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What exactly would I want to look up beyond say a week's time?

Uhm, anything and everything? Like what "casual bullshit" you were up to or what you were "organising"?

In-person and phone conversations fade away all the same.

So you don't even wish you could preserve those?

That's crazy to me how different some people's idea of social relations is. Well you do you! Thanks for explaining!

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and 98% do upvote this old news, it is crazy

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A good time

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I heard signal dislikes forks using its server, did molly get approval to do so, or is this based on generosity until signal can ban them?

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I still wait for an option to officially use signal without having to have a proprietary operating system running 🥲

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Uhm, anything and everything? Like what “casual bullshit” you were up to or what you were “organising”?

I'm honestly curious and your answer just parroted what I said without explanation. Are you just sitting around reading conversations from months ago for entertainment or something? What value are you getting out of keeping chats from years ago?

So you don’t even wish you could preserve those?

Not in the slightest. For what purpose would I want that? I'm not making a This American Life podcast using my inane conversations.

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Wrong thread! Oops.

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Wrong thread! Oops.

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That's why "in this context"!

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Signal will finally let you transfer your encrypted chat history to new linked devices