Signal will finally let you transfer your encrypted chat history to new linked devices

[johnworks@sh.itjust.works]

Here's a link to their website
https://molly.im/
It also links to their GitHub. If you'd want to backup what you'd do is link molly to your iphone signal instance and then the Android client or molly android client of signal allows you to make local backups on device.

Restoring it back to the iPhone won't be possible but there's a backup at least. Or rather maybe with that recent change the article talks about it might be possible in the future but not currently afaik.

[socsa@piefed.social]

This absolutely expands the threat surface in a few different ways though. It's relatively low stakes, but it's non zero. I have not dug into the implementation but I am curious how this doesn't technically violate forward secrecy. A single session key will ostensibly be used to encrypt the entire session key database? Which means if that key is compromised in transit then the entire key history is compromised.

[steal_your_face@lemmy.ml]

Yeah looks like you still need a number to sign up for an account

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/6829998083994-Phone-Number-Privacy-and-Usernames-Deeper-Dive

[lemmebe@sh.itjust.works]

No looking back.

On my side, messengers are used for daily communication, info, memes and such.

Memories are made in person or via video calls having coffee, drinking. My family and friends are scattered all over so we often drink via Signal, sync the music we listen to on both sides... All night long. 🪗

Interested about video calls - do you record them as well for looking back?

[lemmebe@sh.itjust.works]

Same topics here, which is exactly why I have no use for archiving chats.

[croaker@lemmy.zip]

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were asking if they had usernames that could be used in lieu of a phone number as a contact.

[mac@lemm.ee]

I just set up molly today, along with mollysocket and an ntfy server. Liking it so far, just need to get my friends to migrate...

[baatliwala@lemmy.world]

Finally I can transfer my one and only chat to my PC

[alecsadler@sh.itjust.works]

Thanks, I love Signal, but can we get Android tablet linking?

Molly has it.

[elena@lemmy.world]

This is wonderful, thank you so much!

I’ve been holding off from switching to Android (and getting a GrapheneOS x Pixel phone) because I have 5 years’ worth of messages on Signal on my iPhone… I’ll look into this method for sure

[mutilationwave@lemmy.world]

As far as I know it's just one dude. I used it for Reddit then came to Lemmy. Sync for Lemmy appeared and I was pumped.

Yeah it's got its problems, but it's my favorite way to go.

[mutilationwave@lemmy.world]

That's always the hard part.

[seekpie@lemm.ee]

Maybe OP is following said blog and got their info from there, then thought that it might be worth sharing?

[pullpantsunsworn@lemmy.ml]

SimpleX is not a Signal fork. It is it's own protocol, service and app. It just utilizes Signal protocol for encryption like every good e2e encrypted messenger out there.

SimpleX allows anonymous identity, federation between servers and still a good UX.

[derin@lemmy.beru.co]

I'm not harping on OP. If they thought it was worth sharing, great.

The people whom I take umbrage with are those who make a blog post that is reporting on a public announcement (E.g. Signal's news post on their website) without linking to said announcement.

You're not talking about world events with your reporter on the scene - your entire post is literally "someone else posted something to the internet!"; linking to it is the bare minimum required, if you ask me.

[engineergaming@feddit.nl]

Yeah. For me, Signal's security benefits are counteracted by various other usability issues. Such as not being feature-complete on desktop and not even allowing registration there without workarounds - given that phones are very privacy-invasive by default and far from all can have a privacy-respecting OS installed (while Linux works on pretty much any random computer). Or even on mobile - pushing the user towards Google download with dark patterns, not being on F-Droid, or (at least in my experience) the official app not working at all on my Graphene device (Molly worked perfectly though). Also, from what I've seen, even if you don't mind losing connectivity with other users and would only converse with people on your server anyway (like how I do with my family on XMPP), selfhosting Signal is really hard compared to XMPP, Simplex or even Matrix, even requiring modifying the client app.

[toynbee@lemmy.world]

What's Molly in this context?

[alecsadler@sh.itjust.works]

https://molly.im/

A hardened Signal fork that works with Signal's servers and adds features I like that Signal doesn't support.

[toynbee@lemmy.world]

TIL. Thank you!

[iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com]

I feel personally attacked.